How Many Annuity Companies Have Failed?

How many annuity companies have failed? And what really happens if an annuity company fails? In this video, I share the three annuity company failures I've personally seen, how consumers got their money back, and the key things that matter when protecting your retirement money.
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00:00 Introduction to the video
00:44 Annuity companies that have failed during my career
01:41 How we choose annuity companies
02:14 What happens to failed annuity companies
03:04 How clients got their money back from annuity companies
04:05 How big annuity companies, the NAIC and state commissioners protect consumers
05:19 Why I work in the annuity industry
06:10 How we approach annuities and recommendations
07:25 The reality of the annuity industry
07:59 How we keep an eye on the private credit industry
08:45 Next steps & helpful resources
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- 0:00 Introduction to the video
- 0:44 Annuity companies that have failed during my career
- 1:41 How we choose annuity companies
- 2:14 What happens to failed annuity companies
- 3:04 How clients got their money back from annuity companies
- 4:05 How big annuity companies, the NAIC and state commissioners protect consumers
- 5:19 Why I work in the annuity industry
- 6:10 How we approach annuities and recommendations
- 7:25 The reality of the annuity industry
- 7:59 How we keep an eye on the private credit industry
- 8:45 Next steps & helpful resources
0:00
Hi there, Stan The Annuity Man, America's annuity agent, licensed in all 50 states
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and Puerto Rico. Wearing the Stan retro basketball thing because I played a little
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basketball in college at the University of Central Florida. Could shoot the rock.
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Didn't have a choice because my Mom and Dad were both college basketball coaches. So,
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not a fun childhood. I'm just telling you, has a little scars, as they say.
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But, hey, good topic today. How many annuity companies have failed,
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Stan The Annuity Man? Yes, there have been, but I'm going to tell you what happened after this.
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So, how many annuity companies have failed, Stan The Annuity Man? You hear me pounding the table
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about annuities and contractual guarantees, etc., etc. I'm going to talk about how many have failed
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since I've been doing this for three decades, okay? The ones that were on my radar screen,
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the ones that I knew about. Total, I don't know about Sinking Sands of Texas and Crappy
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Insurance Company LLC. I don't know about those people because I don't deal with those people.
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These three I am familiar with because with the last two, I had people contact me and
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ask me if I could help them through the process, okay? So, that was interesting.
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But there's been three. All three were absorbed by
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the state guarantee fund. And as you know, with annuities,
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each state has what's called a state guarantee fund that backs up policies up to a certain level.
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Typically, when we recommend somebody, we're not looking at that state guarantee fund,
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we're looking at the claims-paying ability of the company. A+ or better for lifetime income
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because we're marrying that company for lifetime income. And then for MYGAs, we're dating them.
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So, we're looking at the claims-paying ability for that specific, if it's a three-year or five-year,
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whatever you choose, we're making that recommendation based on that.
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So, A+ or better for lifetime income. And then it depends on who we're talking about.
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B++, A-, A, whatever for MYGA. So, it is different.
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The last two companies, one in 2021 and one in 2008, were both absorbed by the
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state guarantee fund, and every single person got every single penny back,
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even above and beyond the state guarantee fund. Pretty good result, right?
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The other one was when I first started the business. This is probably 25-plus
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years ago. That was the original one that I remember. And I'm not going to mention names
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of companies. It's just not fair. And plus, I don't want their lawyers to go, "Well,
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Stan threw us under the bus." No, you're already under the bus. Stan didn't throw you anywhere.
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But I never name carrier names. So, if you want the names, I can give them to you.
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Just email me, [email protected], or schedule a call, and I'll tell you who they are.
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But the other one, the third one, everybody got their money back as well.
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Now, the way that happened was very interesting.
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The first one took about six to nine months for
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people to get all their money back. It was kind of a long, drawn-out process.
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The second one, in 2008, another insurance company came and bought them hook, line, and sinker and
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just absorbed all the contractual guarantees that were in place. That was an easy one.
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The third one, the one that happened in 2021, that was a little different because the person
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running the company, and I'm going to say allegedly because I don't want
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to get sued, allegedly did not give the right numbers to the state insurance commissioner,
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and they were absorbed. And allegedly, he is serving time.
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But every single person got every single penny
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back above and beyond the state guarantee fund limit.
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Now, I say that with caution because I don't want you to say, "Well, Stan said, you know,
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just buy it. Who cares? You're going to get taken care of." I didn't say that,
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okay? What I'm saying is it worked out that way.
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Which leads me to my next part of this talk, which is about what I call the
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annuity mafia. Annuities are confidence products, and they solve for four things:
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principal protection, income for life, legacy, and long-term care.
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But people have confidence in the life insurance companies issuing the annuities to back up that
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guarantee. They're transferring the risk for that reason. These are transfer-risk products.
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Now, the annuity industry knows that this is a fragile golden goose of confidence that they
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don't want to go away. So, my opinion, without hard facts, but pretty good whisper facts, the
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big boys are protecting the industry. They're not allowing shenanigans to go on.
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And the National Association of Insurance Commissioners does a great job of looking
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into these companies and making sure at the state level, when they approve them, that they're solid
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because the state insurance commissioner in your state is trying to protect you.
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I'm depending on them and the ratings companies and us doing
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our own due diligence to protect you as well. And then you have the big boys,
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the big carriers, trying to protect you as well. We've just seen it play out.
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So, in my career, I've seen three that were on my radar screen. I don't know about any lowly rated,
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unrated company. I don't do that. I don't have time to do that.
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So, I don't know what that total number is of Sinking Sands of Texas and C-rated
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and D-rated companies. I don't care. But all I'm saying is, in my career,
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which is three decades, okay, I've seen three, and all three were different. All three,
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everybody got their money back, but all three happened in a different form or fashion.
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But all three validated why I'm here, why I left Dean Witter, PaineWebber, Morgan Stanley,
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UBS to come to the life insurance industry, because I think this is the safest place for
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your money. I really believe that, and it's been proven out over time.
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Now, what happens in the future? I don't know. Who knows? I don't know that. All I
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know is that the way that we approach annuities and the way that we approach recommendations,
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I'm batting a thousand percent. Hope that continues. I'm serious about this.
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My license is on the line. I take that seriously.
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So, when my team in Las Vegas, they're all licensed in all 50 states,
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but they're not on commission. They're taking directives from me.
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They're underneath me. They're not on commission. The buck stops here.
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So, if I'm recommending something, then there's a reason. I'll explain it if you
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want to. It's very easy for lifetime income: A+ or better. That's a no-brainer, as they say.
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But in my career, I've seen three, and they all worked out well for the
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consumers that were with those companies. They got all their money back. Period.
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What happens in the future? I don't know. But don't come to me and say, "What happens when
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an A+ or A++ company goes out of business?" Please don't waste my time. That's a joke, okay?
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It's not going to happen. Take your tinfoil hat off and throw it away. It's not going to happen.
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But I do know this: with 15,000 people hitting age 65 every single day, that's what I call a
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demographic tidal wave of customers. And you need to know this: the annuity industry is wanting
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to get right in front of that. Period. End of story. And they're going to do whatever it takes
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financially and regulatory-wise and oversight-wise to make sure that that customer's money is safe.
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Now, recently you've seen some articles on private credit. I just did a video on private credit.
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But private credit, we've been following that since 2021. It's a $2 trillion market
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of a $128 trillion financial market in the United States. So, it's an alternative asset class.
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Been on my radar screen for four years, five years now. Not a big deal.
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There's two carriers we're watching. We're not panicking, but we're watching.
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Hey, man, I've done this. I was on the other side. I was at Morgan Stanley.
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I worked in World Trade Center 2, okay, before it fell. I understand that side.
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I understand alternative assets. I understand all of that, and I'm keeping an eye on it.
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Do me a favor. Reach out to me if you have any questions, have any concerns,
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[email protected], [email protected].
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One last thing: above my head, there's a video that I did on artificial intelligence and how
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it's going to affect the annuity industry. Not if it's going to affect, not can it, no,
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how it's going to. I just don't know the when. I think it's going to be between the next two
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years to five years, and it could happen sooner, like everything else has happened sooner with AI.
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So, watch that video. Go to my site at theannuityman.com, download the books, run quotes,
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contact me, be proactive so you can make a good decision on your terms and your time frame. Alright?
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I'm Stan The Annuity Man. See you next time.
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