10% Free Withdrawal Annuity Nonsense: Shootin’ It Straight With Stan

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The “10 percent free withdrawal” pitch sounds great, but what does it really mean? In this Shootin’ It Straight With Stan episode, Stan explains why that feature is just a liquidity provision, not a bonus benefit, and why taking withdrawals can reduce the contractual guarantees and lifetime income attached to the policy.
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Welcome to Shooting It Straight with
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Stan. I'm your host Stan the Annuity
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Man. America's annuity agent licensed in
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all 50 states. Pioneer of contractual
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guarantees
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only.
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I guess we're also Zeke Zeke's behind
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the camera. We're licensed in Puerto
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Rico. Now, I can say that in a Spanish
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accent because we have a Spanish
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division which I'm very, very proud of.
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Today's topic's an interesting one and
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one that comes up occasionally when the
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bad chicken dinner seminar annuity agent
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expensive steak dinner seminar. I always
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say, get the flet mn, get it medium
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rare. You know, swallow the food, not
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the pitch. This typically happens when
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an index annuity gunslinger out there
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that only sells index annuity, one
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sizefits-all product. We have nothing
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against index annuities, but it's not a
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one-sizefits-all product. Um, that we're
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talking about today that the 10%
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um free withdrawal nonsense that's being
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pitched out there. You know, we'll get I
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got a call. The reason I'm doing this
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video is people call me and I listen.
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And the guy said, 'Well, you know, the
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guy said, "Yeah, there's a 10% free
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withdrawal on this one, too." Hey,
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player. Okay, in the index annuity
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world, pretty much every single one
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either has a 7% or 10% free withdrawal.
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Most have 10% free withdrawal, meaning
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that you have access to your own money,
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meaning that if you took that free
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withdrawal, it's going to upset and
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change the contractual guarantees of the
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policy. Hello. But for some reason,
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Johnny Apples Seed agent is like, "Yeah,
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and you get a 10% free withdrawal."
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Instead of saying the right thing, which
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is there are liquidity provisions with
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this index annuity. You can take out 10%
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if you need to. I'd advise you not to
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because it upsets the contractual
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guarantee, but that's a liquidity
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provision. But no, they sell it like
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it's a like it's a benefit. They promote
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it like it's a benefit. And so I'm, you
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know, I'm talking to this guy and I'm
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like, "Hey man, um, you did you get an
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income writer on that?" Yay. Sold me on
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them income writers, too. And got an
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upfront bonus. By the way, upfront bonus
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candy for the stupid. You know, there's
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nobody giving money away at an annuity
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company. And the bonus is just part of
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the overall contractual guarantees. It
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means nothing. If you think that the
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bonus is free money, it's not free
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money. There's not a philanthropist, an
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annuity company that wakes up in the
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morning going, I'm gonna give free I'm
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gonna give money away. No, no, no. It's
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a teaser to get you involved going. They
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want you to be at the at the seminar.
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Go, you know what, Martha? Shoot. That's
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20% 25% bonus. That's well that's a good
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deal. M not all the time. It can be. I
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mean we quote all carriers for
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contractual guarantees and typically
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it's attached to income writers attached
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to index annuities. But in this case the
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guy's like yeah so many income right?
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I'm like yeah and I got this 10% annual
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you free withdrawal too. I said, 'D did
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he tell you that if you took the 10%
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free withdrawal out that it's going to
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affect the lifetime income stream? Well,
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no. Doesn't it just come out of the the
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the the index side and not the income
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writer side? Uh, no. Player, let me let
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me give you a visual. Okay, draw a line
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down a blank sheet of paper. Okay, this
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side's the index annuity side. This
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side's the income writer side. this side
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you can't cash in, transfer or peel off
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that yummy growth that they tell you
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you're getting 8% on grow. That's not
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yield player. That's that's it growing
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by that amount. Okay, for lifetime
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income and 8% don't mean anything. It's
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all about the the bottom number. But
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going back to income writer accumulation
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value, the 10% is taken from both sides.
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So if you say, I want that 10% free
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withdrawal that Johnny Apples Seed agent
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told me about because that's a good
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deal. Well, you've lessened this amount,
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which is your death benefit walkway
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amount, but you've also lessened your
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lifetime income amount because 10% comes
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out of that account as well. Hello.
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Weren't told that, were you? Wow, that's
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interesting.
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10% free withdrawal means you have
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access to your own money. Okay, great.
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Super. They put Thank you. Thank you,
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annuity company, for putting in that
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that liquidity provision. is nothing
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more than a liquidity provision.
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That's it.
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You know, so in the in the sales pitch
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you're hearing out there at the by the
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by your advisors and people's pitching
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index annuities. And by the way, we sell
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more index annuities than anyone, but
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the way that we feel that they should be
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sold at the time of this taping is when
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you attach an income writer for lifetime
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income. You don't have to, but if you
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answer the question, two questions we
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always ask. What do you want the money
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to contractually do? If you said that
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income was the answer. And then the
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second question, when do you want those
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contractual guarantees to start? And you
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said probably seven years from now, 5
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years from now, nine years from now,
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whatever, three years from now. Then we
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attach an income writer for that
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contractual guarantee. The contractual
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guaranteed side is the income writer
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side. Okay? So, if you're going into the
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income writer side, that's your
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contractual guarantee. That's the amount
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of money you know to the penny what it's
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going to be 7 years from now. Then you
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got to understand that 10% free
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withdrawal that Johnny Apples Seed agent
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told you about. It's going to affect
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that if you start taking it out. Now I
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understand things happen. There's
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events, there's emergencies, there's all
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all kinds of stuff like that. It's
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available to you and that's a good
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thing. But what I don't want you to do
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is think that's a that's a big deal. I
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also don't want you to think that when
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they say you get an upfront bonus,
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that's not a big deal either. Who cares?
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If if it affects in a positive way after
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us quoting all carriers for lifetime
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income that income writer side, great.
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Then we'll choose it. Who cares? I don't
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care. It's part of there's a 100 pennies
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in the dollar. Okay. But don't say,
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"Well, I'm getting a I'm getting This is
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what the guy told me. I'm getting a 25%
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upfront bonus and I got 10% free
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withdrawal and and I'm getting long-term
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care." No, you're not getting long-term
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care because long-term care is a health
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product. It's not a life insurance
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product. Everything is wrong about that
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pitch. And also, part of the pitch was,
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"And I'm going to get market upside with
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no downside." Wow. Holy mackerel. I
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mean, you're talking about checking your
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morals at the door as an agent with that
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sales pitch. Ridiculous. And if you own
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an an index annuity and were so already
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and you were sold on the growth side,
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market upside with no downside, market
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participation, principal protection, you
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know that's not true. Now, after two
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years, you know it. And I'm going to
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tell you right now, I've never and I I
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the challenge is out there and it's big
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money behind it. If you can show me
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a hypothetical, theoretical back tested
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proposal that you signed off on that you
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bought and it came true or better. I've
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been I've been putting that challenge
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out there for 25 years. Nobody's taking
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me up on it. Why? Because it never comes
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true. Okay? And it will never come true
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if you're taking 10% out. Well, I'm I
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can take 10% out. It affects the whole
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policy if you do that, Chester.
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Okay. So, don't if it sounds too good to
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be true is every single time without
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exception with annuities without
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exception. If you're interested in in an
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income writer or index annuity with an
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income writer, go to my site at
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theanuityman.com
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and run run quotes to your heart's
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content. By the way, lifetime income, A+
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or better. You don't need a sweater,
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Zeke. It rhymes. A+ or better. You don't
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need a sweater for lifetime income. You
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got to make sure that company is solid
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and going to be here. All right. Now,
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everything that we recommend, I
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personally sign off on. Everybody in my
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Las Vegas office is licensed in all 50
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states, but they are not on commission.
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They follow my recommendations. I look
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at every single case. All right. I do
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that. You say, "Well, how's that?
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Thousands of cases a week." Yeah,
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absolutely. But I can look at them,
7:47
glance at them, know what they're going
7:48
to do, direct my team to do the right
7:49
thing, do exactly what I would do. And
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if you want to get me on the phone, you
7:53
can do that. I'm not afraid of you,
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player. Email me stantheanuityman.com.
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stantheanuityman.com.
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I'll I'll respond and we'll get
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involved. I'll get involved personally.
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One last thing, this yummy hat. You're
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saying, Stan, you're so attractive in
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those hats. Boy, I'd really like to get
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a hat and see if I could pull that off,
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too. You can. If you're a client
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watching this and you don't have one,
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sorry. Uh, we'll send you one. Just
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shoot me an email. Again,
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stantheanuitymen.com. If you're not a
8:18
client, but you're considering, no
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obligation. will send you one as well.
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You just got to give me a good reason
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why. Again, stantheanuityman.com.
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But I guess in closing about this 10%
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free withdrawal, you know, and the
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upfront bonuses, all that sound, if it
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sounds too good to be true, it is every
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single time. And when you take money out
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of a policy, it affects the contractual
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guarantees across the board.
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Period. And if you haven't been told
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that, shame on the agent for not telling
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you that. You know, as my grandfather
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always said, Zeke, if you tell the
8:49
truth, you don't have to remember
8:50
anything. And that's what we do here at
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the Annuity Man. Are we not perfect? No,
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we're not perfect, but we run toward the
8:56
bullets and we make sure that we solve
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any type of problems or issues that you
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may have. And we'll take you from start
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to finish and across the finish line. If
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you decide to work with us, we represent
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all carriers and can pro provide the
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highest contractual guarantees out
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there. So, with that being said, my name
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is Stan the Annuity Man, and that is
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shooting it straight with Stan.
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