There Are Only 2 Types of Annuity Rates: Shootin’ It Straight With Stan

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What if the cash sitting in your checking account could compound year after year without the IRS taking a cut of the interest every year? Stan, The Annuity Man, explains how Multi-Year Guarantee Annuities make that possible.
In this episode, The Annuity Man discussed:
- The PILL framework: principal protection, income for life, legacy, long-term care
- MYGAs as the annuity industry's version of a CD
- Tax-deferred compounding for non-qualified money
- Taking interest out, turning it on and off, and moving to a new MYGA without paying tax
- Why MYGA rates can be higher than CD rates
Key Takeaways:
- Buy an annuity for what it will do, not what it might do. Annuities are contracts that shift risk to the insurer. They aren't tools for market growth.
- CD and money market interest is taxed every year. MYGA interest in a non-qualified account grows and compounds with taxes deferred.
- You don't have to take anything out when the term ends. You can move the money into another MYGA without paying tax, and it keeps compounding.
- Need income for a while? You can take interest off the top and keep your principal, then switch the payments off when you no longer need them.
- MYGA rates can beat CD rates because insurance companies back them with other profit centers. That doesn't make MYGAs better than CDs. It just makes them a strong fit for non-IRA cash.
"Multi-Year Guarantee Annuities - it is the biggest no-brainer of all time and the greatest example of the eighth wonder of the annuity world which is compound interest." — Stan The Annuity Man
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Welcome to Shooting it Straight with
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Stan. I'm your host Stan the Annuity
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Man, America's annuity agent, licensed
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in all 50 states in Puerto Rico. The
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founder of CGO, contractual guarantees
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only, which means you own an annuity for
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what it will do, not what it might do.
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Never buy an annuity for market growth,
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potential hypothetical non-G guaranteed
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returns. Annuities are contractual
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guarantees that are issued by life
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insurance companies. Do not buy the
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hype. Market growth does not equate into
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annuities. So, never buy an annuity for
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market growth, a pitch, upfront bonuses,
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all that stuff. Be smart. Um, you have
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to think before you jump to these some
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of these sales pitches. Hopefully,
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you'll choose us. Go to my site at
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theanuityman.com. You can run quotes
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anonymously without putting in your
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information and get real quotes.
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Download my six owners manuals. Schedule
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stantheanuityman.com.
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Today's topic is there are only two
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types of annuity rates. R a tees rate.
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So people are always, you know, fixated
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with the Fed and fixated with treasuries
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and they've been trained by CNBC and Fox
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Business or or Bloomberg or whatever
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you're watching out there. Got to follow
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the Fed, the Fed, the Fed, the Fed, the
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Fed.
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No, the annuity industry is a little bit
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different because annuities solve for
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four things. Principal protection,
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income for life, legacy, and long-term
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care. That acronym is PIL, principal
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protection, income for life, legacy,
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long-term care. And there's only two
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questions to ask and answer to see if
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you need an annuity. First, what do you
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want the money to contractually do? And
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number two, when do you want those
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contractual guarantees to start? Not
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hypothetical, not theoretical,
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contractual. And from those answers, we
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can point you to the solution uh
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contractually that's going to provide
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the highest number for you. Okay? But
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when it comes to rates, annuities,
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the first the first thing you need to
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look at is lifetime income. So, lifetime
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income, there's four types of products
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in the annuity world. You can't just
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say, "I hate all annuities, buy them."
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Well, you already own one. It's called
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Social Security. That's the best
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lifetime income annuity with an
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inflation writer on it on the planet.
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You already own one annuity. It's called
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Social Security. If your employer
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provides a pension, now you own two.
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Okay? But lifetime income is primarily
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based on your life expectancy at the
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time you take the payments. Interest
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rates play a secondary role. Interest
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rates play a secondary role. It's life
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expectancy. give you an example that
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that will correlate easily in your
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brain. The higher payment for social
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security is at 70 as compared to 65.
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Why? Because you're older. Why? Because
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you have less life expectancy,
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which means that there's fewer projected
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payments, which means those payments are
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higher.
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It's really that simple. People say,
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"Well, I might I might wait till I'm,
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you know, two years from now. Maybe I'll
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get a higher a higher guaranteed
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payout." You will get a higher guarantee
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payout because you're older and you have
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less life expectancy. I mean, it's
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really that simple. So, when we're
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talking about there's only two types of
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rates when it comes to lifetime income,
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it's a payout rate. Now, some there are
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some sites out there that try to compete
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with us. That's a joke. And they'll put
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beside like an immediate annuity, 7.2,
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7.3. That's not yield player. That's a
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numerical reflection of your life
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expectancy. Well, I'm literally looking
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for a 7.8 on a on an immediate. Well,
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then get older.
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[laughter] If you're not getting it on
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our quotes, then you're you're young.
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You're you're too young to get it. It's
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not interest, it's not yield.
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So, with life expectancy, the first rate
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I want to talk about and get you
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clearheaded on, payout rate, payout rate
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is the amount of money they're going to
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pay for the for the rest of your life.
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The other rate is like an interest rate.
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Let me give you an example. Multi-year
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guarantee annuities are the annuity
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industry's version of a CD. I call them
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annuity bonds because you're buying a
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specific duration with a specific life
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insurance company and they're
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guaranteeing an interest rate for that
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duration. So, for example, you can say,
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I want a five-year multi-year guarantee
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annuity and it's yielding this and
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they're going to guarantee that for that
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5-year time period and and you can go to
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my site and pull up a live feed of the
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best fixed rates on the planet. Not do
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you don't have to put in any information
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just your state and you just pull the
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duration and you'll see you can buy one
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year, two year, three year, four year,
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five year, six year, seven year, 8year,
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9year and 10year ma contractual
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guaranteed rates.
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Those are rates. They work like CDs.
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They work like bonds. They pay an
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interest rate for a specific period of
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time that you choose. You can ladder
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them. You can buy three, five, seven,
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10. You can do whatever you want. But
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that's a rate. That's an interest rate.
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Whereas with lifetime income, that's not
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an interest rate. That's a payout rate.
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So those are the two rates. Interest
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rate, payout rate. Completely separate
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animals. Cons completely separate
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things.
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Okay? Both of them are transfer of risk.
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You're transferring the risk to the
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Migas for the interest rate guarantee
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locked in for the lifetime income.
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You're transferring the risk for them to
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pay you for the rest of your life. this
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joint life for the rest of both of your
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lives as long as one of you is
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breathing.
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But those are the rates.
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Now, once again, you can go to my site.
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You can run the the lifetime income
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quotes like income writers. All you have
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to put in is your state of residence,
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gender, and your date of birth. No name,
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no email, no phone number. We're the
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only ones that do that. Period. We will
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be the only ones to ever do that because
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for whatever reason, everyone else is in
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the data collection business. I'm not.
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I'm in the annuity education business to
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hopefully attract you as a client
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because we're educating you and we're
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being transparent and we're shooting it
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straight.
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Same thing with the MAS. MA is live feed
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of all carriers. And by the way, I don't
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I'm never going to mention a carrier
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name because I don't care. For lifetime
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income, it's A+ or better. No
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exceptions. A+ or better for lifetime
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income. We're going to marry that
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company for the rest of your life.
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Multi-year guarantee annuities, we're
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going to date them. We're going to date
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them for the duration. So, it might be
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less than A+, but I'm going to sign off
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on it. And I've batted a thousand%.
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In my career, and that's decades, okay?
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But don't be confused about the Fed and
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all this stuff. I get people all the
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time, well, I'm tracking the Fed. I'm
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going to time it. I'm gonna time the No,
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you're not. You're not going to time it.
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I'll give you an example. My wife and I
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buy MAS because Annuity Man is the the
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company is a growth stock. Best growth
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stock you can't buy because it's private
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and I own it. But with our additional
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money, we buy MAS. we want and we buy it
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with nonIRRA money. And by the way, with
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both of these products, the with the
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rates, interest rates, and then payout
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rates. You can use any type of account,
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IRA, nonirra, Roth IRA, just all that
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does is determine the taxation of the
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money coming out. But my wife and I buy
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these MAS, and we don't get it right all
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the time. There just recently we
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purchased a couple MAS and the two
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companies we bought, rates went up after
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we bought them, you know, like 60 days
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after we bought them. Okay, great. I
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can't time it. I'm not going to time it.
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I'm not going to try to time it. At the
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time of this taping, I rates both sides,
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interest rates, payout rates are fair
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and they highest they've been in a long,
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long time. Bell doesn't ring at the top
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or the bottom player. You know, if it's
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fair and I told my wife the same thing.
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Hey, that's a great company. It was a
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fair um guarantee and we went with it
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and I'm good and I'm not looking in the
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rearview mirror. But what I want you to
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do though is realize that interest
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rates, the Fed, whoever, whoever's in
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charge,
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it's not linear
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like it is with the markets a lot of
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times. A lot of times you would think
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like MIA companies that if interest
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rates raised or lowered that it would
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follow. Sometimes it does, sometimes it
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doesn't. Same thing with lifetime
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incomes. Sometimes it does, sometimes it
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doesn't. You go say, "Well, wait a
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minute. Why? Why wouldn't interest rates
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positively affect every single company?
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If that company doesn't want your age
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range, they're going to lower the
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guarantee not to attract you. If they
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have enough of you in their actuarial
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pool that they're pulling the risk,
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they're not going to they're not going
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to raise the rates to attract you. Same
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thing with MAS. If they have raised
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enough money and interest rates go up,
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that doesn't mean they're actually going
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to go up. They might go down with that
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specific company, okay, to not attract
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you. That's the reason I always say
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annuities are commodity products.
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Shopping all carriers for the highest
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contractual guarantee. On both sides of
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that ledger, rates for principal
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protection, rates for payout. We're
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shopping all carriers because somebody's
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going to want your business. Somebody's
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going to want to attract you. So there's
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not one company that's better than the
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other. All right? So just remember
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there's two types of rates in the
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annuity world. There's interest rates
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for like MAS and then there's payout
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rates for the lifetime income products.
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And if you remember one thing in
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addition to that is you shop all
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carriers for the highest contractual
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guarantee that you're looking to
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accomplish contractually
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not hypothetically. Do not buy annuities
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for market growth. Listen to me. Buy
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them for the contractual guarantees of
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the policy in the story. Go to my site
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theanuityman.com. One last thing,
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there's a virtual Stanley. There's a
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virtual me on the site. Bottom righthand
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corner, you'll see the caricature. If
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you click it, you get to ask Virtual
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Stanley questions. And what we've done
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with the company that is supporting this
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great group of guys and gals from MIT
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grads, they have fed Virtual Stanley the
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2,000 videos and the 400 articles and
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the seven books that I've written. And
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the answers you're going to get are me
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247365.
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You can always schedule a call with me.
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You can always email me at
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stantheananuityman.com.
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And we also have online applications as
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well if you don't want to interact. Um,
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you know, we we can take you I think 85%
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of the way current rules in the annuity
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industry, but we offer that as well. We
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are the tech leaders out here, but yet I
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this redneck still owns the company. How
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about that? I just surround myself with
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smart people. The guy that runs my
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company's from Google. Uh, very smart.
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So, we're we're teched out and we're
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doing that to give you the options to
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shop and get your questions answered
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without having to talk to someone if you
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do not want to do that. But you can you
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can always take that off-ramp and go old
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school and talk with us. My name is Stan
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the Annuity Man. That is Shooting It
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Straight with Stan. We'll see you next
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