There Are No Annuity Roller Coasters: Fun With Annuities

In this Fun With Annuities episode, Stan The Annuity Man explains why guaranteed income annuities are not supposed to feel like roller coasters. If your goal is contractual income you can count on, the strategy should be simple, predictable, and based on guarantees.
Stan breaks down the difference between guaranteed income and products that can come with more movement, like indexed or variable annuities. The point is clear: annuities should not be about chasing upside or riding market-style ups and downs. It should be about knowing exactly what the contract will do.
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FUN WITH ANNUITIES (r)
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Welcome to Fun with Annuities. I'm your
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host, Stan the Annuity Man, America's
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annuity agent, licensed in all 50 states
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and Puerto Rico, the founder of
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Contractual Guarantees Only, CGO, which
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really means you own an annuity for what
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it will do, not what it might do. And
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most of the sales pitches you're going
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to hear out there all kind of might do
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nonsense. Today's topic is there are no
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annuity roller coasters. Let me explain
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that. You know, my background I was with
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Dean Witter, Payne Weber, Morgan
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Stanley, UBS, Union Bank of Switzerland.
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So, I've been on that side of the ledger
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where, you know, markets go up, markets
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go down. At the time of this taping,
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check the date. Um, you know, we're in a
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raging bull market where artificial
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intelligence is kind of driving the
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train. Very eerily similar to, you know,
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when the dot era was around. I was there
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at Morgan Stanley and what they call
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syndicate manager. that doesn't mean
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mafia. That means I had access to all
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the IPO shares that I could give away.
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And boy, people went crazy. And it was
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the same kind of irrational exuberance
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that you're seeing now. Hopefully
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though, um, artificial intelligence is
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the real deal. And it'll just continue
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this bull market run that we're on right
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now. I It's fantastic for you guys out
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there that are doing some in the market.
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As you know, only look at contractual
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guarantees. That's where we live. I
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think part of your portfolio should be
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in contractual guarantees. When I say
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there's no annuity roller coasters, it
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is what that sounds like. I mean,
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markets go up, they go down. I think one
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of the interesting parts about today's
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markets, a lot of the advisers have
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never really seen a down market. A lot
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of the advisers, I have cowboy boots
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older than they are, they have never
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seen anything go down. Every dart they
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throw seems to be a winner. and the
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price toearnings ratios, those type of
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foundational um analysis, you know,
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Benjamin Graham type approach doesn't
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really hold water that much anymore. I
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mean, it's um there's a lot of things
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going on that don't make that type of
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analytical sense to the Warren Buffett
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types, the Charlie Munger types of the
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world. You know, they look at this and
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say, you know, it it doesn't make any
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sense to them. If you look at Buffett's
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portfolio, I mean, they they're buy they
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have candy and insurance and CocaCola
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and things like that. Um, things that
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they can explain to a nine-year-old. I
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always tell people with annuities, same
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thing. If you can't explain it to a
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nine-year-old, then don't buy it. But
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with annuities, annuities are issued by
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life insurance companies. They're
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contracts. When you have contractual
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guarantees, there are no roller
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coasters. There's no ups and downs in
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market and this and that and there's
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just not.
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Great example. Guy called me the other
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day and was talking about multi-year
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guarantee annuities and that's the
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annuity industry version of a CD, but I
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also feel like it fits into that bond
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type category. Now, having managed bonds
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for Morgan Stanley and the other firms
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and I know what I'm talking about there,
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as you know, if you've been a bond buyer
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that the underlying valuation
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fluctuates.
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you know, it doesn't stay the same. What
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I love about multi-year guarantee
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annuities, you go to my site at
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theanuityman.com and and check those out
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that have been approved for your state.
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What I love about them is that
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underlying value does not fluctuate.
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There is no roller coaster to it.
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And for you,
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the people out there that are looking at
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chapter two of their lives, which some
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people call retirement, I call it
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chapter two because I want you to pivot
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into something different and fun and
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unique for you where you, you know,
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there's three phases of retirement, go-
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go, slow, go, and no-go. I want you to
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be cognizant of the fact and taking
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advantage of the go- go years. So,
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there's no there's no roller coasters
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with multi-year guarantee annuities.
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Now, with um the four types of annuities
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that provide lifetime income, there's no
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roller coasters on those either because
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I do not believe in attaching cost of
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living adjustment increases to them
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because the annuity company just simply
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lowers the payment. So, you have a
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static amount of of money that's that
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that's coming in every single month for
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the rest of your life. And we can
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structure it so that not one penny goes
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to the annuity company. They're on the
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hook to pay, but if you die early, 100%
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of the money will go to your listed
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beneficiaries. I mean, that's how most
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people try to set them up with us. And
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that's what we advise if you want to
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make sure there's some legacy there if
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something happened to you in the policy.
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There's no roller coasters with lifetime
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income with annuities. These are
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contractual guarantees.
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Period. I mean, that's what they are.
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Now, there's three types of annuities
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that we really do not
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we don't really like them that much
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because they're they're based on
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hypotheticals and theoreticals and non-g
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guaranteed return scenarios. Now, one of
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those which is indexed annuities, that's
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a fixed product. We use those to deliver
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income writers for future lifetime
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income streams. But even with indexed
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annuities, it's a CD product. The
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underlying value never fluctuates.
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There's no roller coaster effect with
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indexed annuities. Now, I have my I have
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my problems with the way that they're
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pitched too often with agents, you know,
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out there pitching market returns, which
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they're not designed for that. They're
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designed for CD returns and that's fine,
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but we use them exclusively to deliver
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the the guarantees for the for the
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income writer. But again, there's no ups
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and downs. Now, the registered linked
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annuities out there um for the brokerage
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firms are now pushing and and the reason
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that they brought them out is because
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they were losing so much in sales to
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equity index annuities, fixed index
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annuities. They used to be called equity
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index annuities. they just were losing
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so much money they created their own
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version of that a little bit more souped
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up it's got a little bit more mo moving
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parts I call them co-ay annuities but
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again what the the pitch with the RIA
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type buffer type annuities is you know
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no roller coasters variable annuities
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you can roller coaster okay that's
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mutual funds wrapped with an insurance
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policy once again we don't sell variable
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annuities for that reason we don't sell
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Ryus because we you know if you want
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market growth go get it but what I want
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to just get through to you is when
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you're buying annuities or you're
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considering annuities, you need to
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consider them for the contractual
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guarantees of the policy. You're a
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better investor if you have that income
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floor in place knowing that that's not
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going to be disrupted and that's not
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going to fluctuate and that's a
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non-correlated asset, meaning not
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attached to the markets and it's going
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to hit like clockwork. You can be a
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better investor because you don't have
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to disrupt your investments that are
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long-term to create income or liquidity
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because you have that income floor in
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place.
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Life insurance companies issue
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annuities. Annuitities when they're
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purchased correctly for their
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contractual guarantees, there are no
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roller coasters there. There is no ups
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and downs. There are are no ups and
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downs to that. Bad bad grammar, Stanley.
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There are no ups and downs.
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So, I want you to think of them like
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that. And if someone's pitching you
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hypotheticals and theoreticals with
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[clears throat]
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RiyAS or indexed or or um variables,
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just go, you know, go buy the market. go
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buy stuff with unlimited upside, which
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is non annuities. Now, I know the
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annuity industry is going to blast me as
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they normally do, but I'm right. You
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I've done that other side where there
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are roller coasters, but with roller
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coasters, there's excitement on the
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downside, there's excitement on the
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upside, and you can get unlimited
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returns
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um in non-anuity products. Just just
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understand that it's all about the
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contractual guarantees.
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I [snorts] had a consultant the other
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day uh reaching out to me and and they
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just did not understand my business
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model. You know, our headquarters in Las
7:37
Vegas, we have a very unique proprietary
7:39
business model and how we do things.
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Everybody in the building's licensed in
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all 50 states, but they're not on
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commission. Um, you know, they're
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incentivized by our clients being happy,
7:49
making sure the process goes well, being
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the administrative arm for our clients.
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[clears throat]
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But the consultant asked me, he goes,
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"Well, tell me about the process, Stan,
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for your annual reviews."
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And I went I looked I looked at the the
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the guy who runs the company for me,
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he's also a co-owner, and I said, "What?
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What's he talking about?" Annual
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reviews. When you're buying contractual
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guarantees, which is what we only
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recommend, what are we reviewing?
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Annual reviews are for things that
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aren't guaranteed or don't fluctuate or
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you had these goals that you're not sure
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you're going to hit. I never get a call
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from anyone saying, "Boy, that was a
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wild year for us, Stan." No, it wasn't.
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There's no roller coasters in annuities.
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There's no roller coasters when you buy
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an annuity for what it will do, not what
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it might do. And I told this consultant,
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"You obviously don't know my business.
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You obviously haven't done the research.
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You obviously haven't heard anything
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[clears throat] that I've said, read
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anything that I've written on the seven
8:46
books that I've written that you can get
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for free at my site." um or watch any of
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my videos, I'm always talking about will
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do, not might do. I have will do on the
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side of my caps. I mean, I think it's on
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this one. Zeke, is it on this? Will do.
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There you go. I mean, so I looked at the
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guy. I'm like, you need to do some more
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research before you ask that question
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because we're not the normal advisory
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group out there. We're not the normal
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agent or broker or advisor that's
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selling annuities because they're
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selling the dream. We're selling the
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contractual realities because that's
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what you're going to own. I always tell
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people if you buy the dream eventually
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you're going to own the contractual
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realities. And I get calls all the time
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from people that say, "Hey Stan, um you
9:30
know, can I get out of this uh index
9:32
annuity because it's not performing like
9:34
the guy promised?" I'm like, "Yeah,
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probably not because it's a long-term
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surrender charge." But you should have
9:40
never bought it for that potential. You
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should have never bought the dream and
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certainly shouldn't have never bought
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anything with a with an upfront bonus
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because yeah, there's only 100 pennies
9:50
in the dollar. Guy called me the other
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day. He said, "Well, this guy offered a
9:52
25% bonus." I was like, "Is there 125
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cents in the dollar?" He goes, "No,
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100." I'm like, "Okay, so they're taking
9:59
something away, right? I mean,
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rationally we can say that."
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I think the roller coasters in the
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annuity industry are with the sales
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pitches. They're all over the board.
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They're up. They're down. They're all
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perfect world that I live in. Annuities
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are if I was the annuities are number
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one, all commissions would be the same.
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You know, commissions are built in and
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hidden from the client, but they'd all
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be the same. There'd be no incentive to
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sell one product over the other. And
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then back tested hypothetical numbers
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would be illegal to show.
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So, the contractual guarantees of
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annuities, and there's eight different
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types.
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I mean, if you're buying for the
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contractual guarantees, there's no
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roller coaster. But the roller co So,
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I've solved that. But the roller coaster
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I'm trying to get rid of is the roller
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coaster of sales pitches that are out
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there, not only at the bad chicken
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dinner, expensive steak dinner seminar,
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but also when people are starting to
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talk about products on the internet, um,
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that's insane because annuities are
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commodities. There's not one company
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better than the other. We represent them
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all, but we quote all carriers for the
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highest contractual guarantee. So, no
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roller coasters with contractual
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guarantees. There are some roller
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coasters with the sales pitches you're
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going to hear out there. I hope that you
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use us or consider us or try us. Go to
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theanuityman.com.
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You can email me at
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stantheanuityman.com.
11:22
Schedule a call and if you want to speak
11:24
with me, demand to do that and I will
11:26
fit you into my schedule. That is fun
11:28
with annuities.
11:30
I'm Stan the annuity man. Stay safe out
11:33
there. Put your thinking caps on.
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