The Best Income Riders Are Not Annuitized: Shootin’ It Straight With Stan

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Learn why locking yourself into irreversible annuity payments isn’t the only way to secure lifetime income. In this episode, you’ll hear how non-annuitized income riders can give you contractual guarantees and the flexibility to turn income on and off when life or tax laws change.
In this episode, The Annuity Man discussed:
- Annuitization explained and “water faucet” analogy
- Single premium immediate annuities, DIAs, and QLACs
- Income riders as flexible, non-annuitized lifetime income
- Turning income on/off and adjusting start dates
- Importance of A+ rated carriers and avoiding low-rated “high quote” products
Key Takeaways:
- Annuitization creates an irrevocable income stream—once it’s turned on, the payments keep flowing for life or the contract period, like ripping the knob off a water faucet.
- Income riders provide a contractual path to lifetime income while allowing you to maintain control over the asset and the timing of your payments.
- The best income riders are “drawdown” products, where each lifetime payment is simply subtracted from the policy rather than locking you into a traditional annuitization.
- Lifetime income levels are driven primarily by life expectancy at the time you start payments; interest rates play only a minor role.
- It’s critical to use strong, A+ or better carriers for income riders because they are not backed by state guarantee funds, even if a lower-rated company offers a higher quote.
"We use the indexed annuity as a delivery system for the income rider, but the best income riders are not annuitization products." — Stan The Annuity Man
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Welcome to Shooting It Straight with
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Stan. I'm your host, Stan, the annuity
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man, America's annuity agent, licensed
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in all 50 states of Puerto Rico and the
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founder of CGO contractual guarantees
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only. You only uh you own an annuity for
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what it will do, not what it might do.
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Today's topic is a good one. It's the
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best annuity income writers are not
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annuitized.
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Let's explain what annuitization means
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because a lot of you don't even know
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what that means. Annuization means
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creating payments. So there's three
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annuitized type products. Single premium
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immediate annuities, deferred income
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annuities, and qualified longevity
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annuity contracts. Think about ripping
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the knob off a water faucet and water's
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just flowing. There's nothing you can
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do. With annuitization products, when
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you turn on the income stream, the
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income's coming. It's flowing. It's
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flowing. As long as you're breathing,
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it's going to come. If you have a period
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certain, it's going to pay for that
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period certain. But if you have a
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lifetime income stream annu annuity and
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it's annuitized,
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it's a wrap. Income's coming as long as
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you are breathing. Now, we can build in
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back stops, what I call back stops. If
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you think of little league, that makes
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sense for if you die early in the
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contract, 100% of the money can go to
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your family either in a lump sum or
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payment form. Because a lot of people
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out there say, well, I'd never buy an
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annuity because annuity company keeps
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the money when I die. That's just dumb.
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Stop talking. Okay? Get educated. So we
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can structure it so that 100% of any
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unused money goes to the beneficiaries
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even though they're on the hook to pay
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if you're 190. Well, if I live to 195,
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they'll pay.
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And right now with artificial
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intelligence kind of shortening the
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medical breakthroughs, it's lengthening
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out life expectancy tables eventually. I
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think right now is a really good time to
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consider buying a lifetime income
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product. So those are the three
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annuitized product. Ripping the knob off
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the water faucet. It's irrevocable. It's
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going to happen. As long as you're
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breathing or on a respirator, that
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income's coming. Again, single premium
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immediate annuities, SPAS, deferred
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income annuities, DAS, qualified
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longevity annuity contracts, QLAX, which
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brings us to the fourth way to do
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lifetime income. And it's also
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contractual, contractually guaranteed.
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They're called income writers. You can't
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just go buy an income writer. There's no
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such thing. Income writers ride
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on top of a policy either variable
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annuity, a RIA or an index annuity. What
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we found, the highest contractual
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guaranteed income writers happen to be
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attached to index annuities. We don't
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care about index annuities. We don't I
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don't believe in that garbage sales
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pitch market upside with no downside.
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That's a bunch of junk. Okay? That's a
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bunch of junk. We use the indexed
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annuity as a delivery system for the
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income writer. But the best income
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writers are not annuitization products.
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They're called in the industry drawd
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down products. Hey Stan, what does draw
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down mean in real English? Subtraction.
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That's what it means. It's a lifetime
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income stream and that amount of
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lifetime income stream is subtracted
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from the policy every time you receive
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it.
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Now, here's the good part about income
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writers.
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You can shut them on and off like a
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light switch.
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You might never do that, but you might
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do that. You say, "Wait a minute, Stan.
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Why would I ever even consider doing
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that?" All right, let's look into the
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future. There's a politician, pure
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socialist, maybe a communist, pure
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socialist, that stands up and says,
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"It's not fair that people with annuity
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payments are getting these payments.
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Everyone should be getting annuity
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payments. They forgot. They left out the
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part where you worked hard for decades
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and did without and threaded the needle
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and did it the right way. Okay, they
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left that part out. But that's okay.
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They're trying to get votes. And because
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these people have these guaranteed
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annuity payments, we're going to start
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taxing these evil rich people. Yeah. Uh
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they're talking about you and me. I know
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you don't consider yourself evil rich,
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but they're talking about you and me.
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And we're going to start taxing these
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evil rich people at 95% on those income
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payments.
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Well, Stan, that would never happen.
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That would never happen, Stan. They
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wouldn't confiscate wealth from someone
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like me, would they? I don't know. But
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let's just say they do. What do we do
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with the income writer? We shut it off.
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We shut it off and then vote against
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them.
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Or let's just say the IRS gets weird one
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year. I know they're normal right now,
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but but weird one year and has some
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weird tax law that's going to affect you
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in a really horrific way. And you got to
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figure out how to shut off some income
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in the short term. Shut off the annuity
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income writer. It's not annuitized.
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You're not ripping the ro the knob off a
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water faucet. I always tell people
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annuitization for lifetime income is a
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contractual path for lifetime income.
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Income writers are a contractual path
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for lifetime income. Two different
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paths.
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Okay.
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Now, we only ask two questions every
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single time to be what do you want the
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money to contractually do? When do you
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want those contractual guarantees to
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start? Let's just say you said I want
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lifetime income for me and the spouse
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and I want the income to start five
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years from now. Great. We're going to
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quote deferred income annuities and
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income writers, possibly QLAX if it's
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IRA money, but income writers for the
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highest contractual guarantee, quoting
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all carriers A+ or better.
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That's what we're going to do. Don't
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care about the name. Don't care about
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the brochure. Don't care about the fancy
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marketing name, the flippitydoo XYZ from
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XYZ company. I don't care. A+ or better
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and the number. A+ or better and the
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number for income writers and Dasp
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everything. These are commodity
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products. So, we're quoting all income
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writers for the highest number,
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but that number is not an annuization
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number.
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Here's another thing with income
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writers. You go into a policy, that
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example, and you're going to start the
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income in five years. We're going to
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call you 60 days prior to that
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contractual turnon date where you're
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going to turn on the income stream. And
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we're going to say, "Hey, still want to
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turn on the income stream? Let's
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validate and verify the bank account
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where the money's going to." And you
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might say, "Yo, yo, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Things have changed, player. We don't
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need the income right now. Let's move it
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two years out." We can do that. Or the
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reverse. You call us two years earlier
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and say, "I know I was scheduled to turn
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on the income stream two years from now.
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Things got kind of weird here. We need
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the income now. Can we turn it on?" Yes.
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Remember, lifetime income is primarily
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based on your life expectancy or life
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expecties at the time you take the
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payment. The older you are, the higher
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the payment. Please don't analyze it
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more than that. Interest rates play a
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minor role. Okay, minor.
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But the the lifetime income stream from
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an income writer is contractual. It's
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going to pay for as long as you're
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breathing and or on a respirator.
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Period. How you stay? What if I lived
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125? It's going to pay. You understand?
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What if I lived 150? It's going to pay.
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You're transferring the risk to the
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annuity company, the life insurance
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company that issued the annuity and the
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income writer to pay for as long as you
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are breathing A+ or better. You don't
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need a sweater. So, we're looking at A+
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or better carriers. No exceptions. I
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know that I mean I listen, I represent
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every carrier out there. We show all
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quotes and there's some right now
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there's some lowrated carriers with high
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income writer quotes. Don't touch them
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with a 10-ft pole.
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Income writers are not backed by the
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state guarantee fund. Hello. Did you
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know that? Did Johnny Apples Seed agent
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tell you that?
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No. So, you got to get quality companies
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that are issuing income writers and then
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quote them all, A+ or better, and choose
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the highest number. But understand, you
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can turn on that income on and off like
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a light switch. I hope that never
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happens. I hope that you don't have to
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do that. I hope the income continues
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uninterrupted and unchanged by some
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stupid political decision. But what what
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I'm telling or IRS decision, what I'm
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telling is you have that option. You
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have you have that option to change the
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income start date. It's a flexible
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solution for lifetime income guarantees
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income writers. All right. So the best
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income writers out there are not
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annuitized. Now, some of you out there
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with variable annuities. We don't sell
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variable annuities because the keyword
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variable. We don't do any of that.
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Everything's contractual. They there's a
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lot of different income writers. I would
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encourage you to go to my site at
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theanuityman.com.
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Theanuityman.com and you can download an
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owner manual on income writers that I
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have written and you can get for free.
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And I go through all types of income
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writers. There there is slash are a
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couple of income writers on the variable
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annuity side from those older policies
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that are that are annuitized. We're
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talking about dinosaurs right now. I
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mean, who cares? The ones right now are
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not annuitized. I had to cover that for
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all you people going to email me. You
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can email me anyway. Income writers
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right now, the best ones out there are
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not annuitized. And you retain full
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control over the asset even though
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you're getting a lifetime income stream.
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It's pretty good. All right. So, you
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learned something today, right? Hope so.
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My name is Stan the Annuity Man. That is
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Shooting It Straight with Stan. And I
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