Have Your QLAC Cake & Eat the RMDs Too!: Shootin’ It Straight With Stan

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Can a retirement strategy provide future lifetime income while reducing the amount used to calculate required minimum distributions? This episode explores how QLACs work, the tradeoffs of delaying income, and the role of life expectancy in annuity payouts.
In this episode, The Annuity Man discussed:
- QLAC basics and eligibility
- QLACs, RMD calculations, and taxes
- Joint lifetime income and beneficiary options
- Deferred income and payout timing
- Life expectancy tables and annuity pricing
Key Takeaways:
- QLACs are presented as a way to turn eligible retirement-account funds into future lifetime income.
- The episode explains that QLAC amounts can be excluded from the RMD calculation, potentially lowering taxable RMDs.
- Starting income later generally means higher payments, while also requiring a longer wait for income to begin.
- The discussion emphasizes life expectancy—not market performance—as a key factor in lifetime annuity payouts.
- Contract options such as joint-life income and beneficiary provisions can affect how a QLAC fits into a retirement plan.
"Lifetime income. That's part of your income floor." — Stan The Annuity Man
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Welcome to Shooting It Straight with
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Stan. I'm your host Stan the Annuity
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Man, America's annuity agent, licensed
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in all 50 states and Puerto PTO Porto
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Puerto Rico. Founder of CGO contractual
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guarantees only. You own an annuity for
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what it will do, not what it might do. I
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encourage you to go to my site at
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theanuityman.com. You can run anonymous
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quotes. Just put in your date of birth,
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gender, and state of residence. Get real
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quotes. Only site that does that because
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we're not going to sell any of your
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information like the other sites.
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Today's topic is a very very good one,
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fun one, interesting one. One I'm going
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to explain. It's called Have your QAC
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cake and eat the RMDs too. Yes, have
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your QAC cake and eat the RMDs required
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minimum distributions too. Qualified
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longevity annuity contracts. Great,
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great product put on the planet in 2014.
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introduced by actually the department of
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the treasury and the IRS together
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working on that wise stand. Why would
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they do that is because social security
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the best inflation annuity that you
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already own it was never put in place to
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be the sole source of lifetime income in
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chapter two of your life. So, what the
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Treasury Department and and the um IRS
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said, "Let's put something out there
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that allows people to use their
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traditional IRA type money, 401k, IRA,
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403b, 457, things that's been deferring
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and they can use that for lifetime
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income and they can add their spouse for
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lifetime income."
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Oh, and Bob, but but I'm sure the median
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like, "But yeah, but you got to give
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them more incentive than that." And they
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did. So what they did is the amount of
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money that you put into a QAC at the
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time of this taping is $210,000
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dollars per person per IRA, you know,
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per person's IAS.
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But check the time of the of the release
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because I will guarantee you it's going
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to go higher
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because it initially started out at 125.
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So they're going to keep raising it
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because they're they have to incentivize
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people to take lifetime income. And my
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conspiracy theorist, not really
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conspiracy, it's just common sense.
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Eventually, they're going to means test
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social security. I know you said, "Let's
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play. I paid into it, Stan. That's just
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not fair. I don't care about fair." I
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mean, they don't Well, I care about
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fair, but they don't care about fair.
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Politicians going to call you the evil
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rich. You don't think you're the evil
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rich? You're the evil rich. You are.
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Well, I'm not. I only got this amount.
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Well, guess what? 60% of senior citizens
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have less than $10,000 to their name. Is
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that you? No, that's not you. 54% of the
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public don't even have a checking
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account.
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I mean, during co we the they had a hard
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time getting money to everyone but the
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fraudsters because they there was a
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checking account. Frosters knew how to
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open a checking account. Boy, what a
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mess that was. But qualified longevity
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annuity contracts are fantastic because
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you can take your traditional IRA
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and add your spouse for joint life
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income. And we could structure it so
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that 100% of any unused money goes to
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the beneficiary and the evil annuity
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company never keeps a penny even though
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they're on the hook to pay if the income
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starts.
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So you're transferring the risk to the
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life insurance company issuing the
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qualified longevity annuity contract QAC
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and we structure so they never keep a
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penny of it even though they'll pay you
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forever or if your spouse lives forever
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they'll pay them forever. And the amount
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at this time of this taping, the 210 is
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deducted
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from your required minimum distribution
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calculation. So it lessens the taxes on
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your RMDs.
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So yes, you can have your Q- like cake
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and eat up the RMDs as well. Is it too
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good to be true? No. But I was having
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fun with the title.
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I was at a dinner the other night and um
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with a with a leader in the industry,
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kind of a competitor, but I don't look
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at them like that because we don't have
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competitors yet.
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The private equity people are coming
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because they see what I'm doing. But
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this person, smart, smart, fun, like
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them, looks me in the eye and they've
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been in the business. They're running
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one of my competitors. looks me in the
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eye and says, "Can you explain a QAC to
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me?" And I went, "What?"
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I mean, that's like someone on Wall
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Street going, "Can you explain a MUN
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bond to me? You're in the financial
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business. You're in the annuity
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business." But it made me think, and I
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told the person that runs my company, I
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said, "You know what? I bet you 75%
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of all annuity agents in the country do
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not know what a qualified longevity
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annuity contract is. Do not know that it
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would lessen your RMDs. Do not know that
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you can use it for lifetime income,
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joint lifetime income with your spouse,
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even though it's your traditional IRA.
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They just don't know. Now, they're
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either lazy, stupid, or they don't want
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to sell a very proconsumer product at a
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very low commission.
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But the fact that these people don't
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even know what it is and it's been put
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out since 2014 and we've sold a
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quadrillion of it blows me away.
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Now
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at the time of this taping and check the
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date of the post should be quick.
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Life expectancy tables have not been
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affected by artificial intelligence.
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artificial intelligence is fastly
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[snorts]
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I guess that's a word quickly shortening
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the life expectancy tables or or
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lengthen life expectancy tables because
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they're shortening the medical
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breakthroughs. So they're shortening the
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medical breakthroughs which means that
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the life insurance companies issuing the
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culax are eventually going to say hey
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there's so much medical breakthroughs
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you're going to live longer which means
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the payments will be longer which means
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the payments will be lower. I know that
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took a long time to get where I'm
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getting ready to go. Actuarial tables
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right now, life expectancy tables right
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now are in your favor. And that's not a
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sales pitch. That's a fact.
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Lock in pre- artificial intelligence
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life expectancy tables. Interest rates
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don't play here, player. Well, I'm
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waiting on the Fed stand. You're dummy.
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Okay,
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come on. I want you as a client, but I
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want you rational. Annuities are not
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like the market. Annuities are not like
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bonds. Annuities are not like ETFs.
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Annuities for lifetime income. It's
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about your life expectancy. It's a
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transfer of risk that the annuity
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company is going to pay for as long as
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you're breathing. Interest rates play a
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minor role.
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It's about life expectancy. And because
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it's about life expectancy and life
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expectancy tables are at ancient levels
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and haven't been affected by AI right
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now, it's time player, it's time to go
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to my site and run QAC quotes. And when
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you go to my site to run QAC quotes,
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theanuityman.com,
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you do not have to put in your name. You
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do not have to put in your email
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address. You do not have to put in your
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phone number. All you have to put in is
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your gender,
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your state of residence. Okay, think
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about that. and your date of birth.
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That's it.
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No email, no phone, no name. And you get
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the same quotes. Stan, wait. Why is
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everybody doing that? Because they're
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selling your name. Anybody that's asking
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you for all that information,
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most likely can't prove it. My opinion,
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they're selling your name because you
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know why? Because they get $150 to $300
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per name. That's the going rate. Hello.
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Hello. So go to my site, run anonymous
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quotes, go to my site, look at a QAC.
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You can defer a CQAC out to as far as
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age 85 to start the income, but you
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don't have to wait that long. A lot of
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people go, "Well, I don't want to wait
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to 85." You don't have to, player. You
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can start it as soon as you want.
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Just remember the od the higher the
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payment. Well, see, yeah, I mean, the
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payout at 85 was a lot better than 77.
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You think
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for whatever reason, Social Security is
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the best inflation annuity on the planet
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you already own. And everybody,
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everybody, everybody knows that the
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payments are higher at 70 than at age
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65. The payments are higher at age 70
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than at 67. The payments are higher at
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age 70 or 68 than 62.
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Why? Because you're older. Why? because
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you have less life less life expectancy
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at age 70 which means the payments will
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be higher because there's fewer of them
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but yet we get to to the annuity side
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people well can you time it how they do
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it the od the higher the payment
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what I'm telling you is culs you can
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kill two birds with one stone you can
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have your culac cake and eat the RMDs up
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at two how about that you can do it
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lifetime income as part of your income
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floor.
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Okay,
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RMDs are going to be part of your income
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floor as well,
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but Ulax can lessen those, lessen the
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taxes on those, and you're getting a
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lifetime income stream from the Ulac.
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It's a great product. Ulacs are a great
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product. They're a proconsumer product.
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Even though all annuity commissions are
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built in, these are low low commissions.
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That's why you don't hear about it.
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That's why there's no QAC seminars at a
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steakhouse. There should be if I ever
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did if I I would never do a seminar
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[snorts] cake. You know why? Because my
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mom would show up. Um not kidding.
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But if if there were people doing the
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right thing, it would be a culac
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seminar.
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But I guess then they'd just be serving
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coffee and you know donuts or something.
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Not a filelet mgden as my mom calls it.
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That's filet man to us other people.
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Culac you can you can you can eat your
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culac cake. No you can have your culac
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cake and eat your rmds too.
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You can get a lifetime income stream and
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you can lower the taxes on your RMDs.
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Translation.
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Go to my site run the quotes. I've even
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written an owner's manual on QEX that
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you need to download for free, of
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course,
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and I've done a few videos on ULEX as
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well.
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But these are great products even even
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with the Treasury Department, the IRS
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being the the founders of it all. It's
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good. It's good stuff.
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You better put it in place before they
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means test social security. That's
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coming. I'm telling you, this just has
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to happen. All right.
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