076 Mr. FIA-X: Letters, Numbers, and BS Bonuses

IN THIS EPISODE, THE ANNUITY MAN AND MR. FIA-X DISCUSS:
- Running away from lies and half-truths
- “Guaranteed increasing income” and other misleading statements
- Knowing how much you’ll really earn
- Why people choose annuities
KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- If anybody tells you that what they’re selling has “no downsides” - run away, don’t listen. Everything they're telling you will probably be a lie.
- How you state things matter, and how you decipher them matters. When selling annuity products, never mislead people.
- The old rule still applies: if it sounds too good to be true, regardless of who’s pitching it, it probably is.
- People choose to go for annuities because they want to transfer risks.
"They're [annuities] gonna give you a better than average chance at a better than average return…" — Mr. FIA-X
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welcome to fun with annuities with your
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annuity agent can annuities be fun can
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facts about annuities with no sales
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pitches or high pressure nonsense just
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the brutal and factual annuity truth
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which is all you need to hear
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let's have some fun with annuities and
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let's have that fun start right now
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[Music]
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welcome to fun with annuities i'm your
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host stan the annuity man america's
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annuity agent license in all 50 states
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so glad you joined us here for the fun
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and myself
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on the fun with annuities youtube
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channel which is great because he has on
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a mask yes everyone
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back by popular demand
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mr
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f-i-a-x which by the way
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he is he is currently the the superstar
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when we have him on because people are
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dying to know the truth about index and
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news now the funny part about this
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is that
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agents and and people who listen and and
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that our listening audience is 99
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consumers but there are some hard-headed
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agents out there that listen to us as
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well and they're all trying to guess who
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mr f-i-a-x is
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and up until this point everyone's got
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it wrong
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i'm not going to reveal it because
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i know who he is of course but um you
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know this is this is heady stuff and
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this is um how the faa sausage is made
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and the the annuity companies really
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don't like him being on i have heard
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from two specific companies that say we
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don't like him we don't like what he's
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saying
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uh we don't know what he's saying to
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know me is to love me to know you is to
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love you says your two uh ex
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um
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wives
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um all right so here we go you know
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here's what i always say mr fiax what
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season is it is it the coveted season
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there's an argument for that is it fall
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season it's coming up is it football
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season
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yes
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but all of those answers are incorrect
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mr fix it is officially
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indexed annuity silly season
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okay
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this is
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insane and in disclaimer i sell them
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stan the annuity man america's annuity
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agent licensed in all 50 states i sell
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indexed annuities i sell them properly
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for the contractual guarantees and the
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attached income writers but the topic of
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today is letters and numbers and bs
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bonuses and all that stuff i'm going to
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throw it to you mr f-i-a-x
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well after labor day it's the official
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kick-off of a seminar annuity season so
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you're going to eat well
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you're going to hear half truths
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you're going to you know it's it's a
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whole difficult process to skip through
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the bs so swallow the food not the sales
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pitch and order the steak medium rare
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like warm in the middle right mr fia
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yeah we're we're a family show across i
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can't say what i really want to say but
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you know
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you know look there's some good
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information out there i don't want to
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discredit all the agents but i'll just
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i'll discredit a lot of them and
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i could do it very easy when when you go
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into a seminar okay
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and
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one of the things is if the guy hasn't
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called you personally to greet you
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i find that you're not that busy that
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you can't call me you're like they have
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their asses assistance viewers the
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reason why they have their assistants do
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this is they don't want to talk
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it's just bad right
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uh they don't eat and stay a lot of the
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guys just do their deal let you have the
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meal and they leave
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um
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stories are just amazing this is my
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favorite one though sam if you hear this
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in your seminar
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get your food to go okay because here's
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what it is
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you can participate in the stock market
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without the risk you'll get stock
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market-like returns
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ronnie get market upside with no
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downside get the heck out and boy is
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that that's one that i hear more often
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than not
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um
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it's it's just insanity what's being
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pitched out there
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uh if that as we always say as mr fiax
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and i always say if that was true
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then we would go to dc and convince the
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fed
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to buy just indexed annuities because
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that would be the perfect product right
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yeah how did to get all the upside and
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no downtime yeah
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in the actual market in the actual index
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and i'll give you because i think this
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might segue into what we want to talk
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about today
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the asian stone illustrations i know we
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want to talk about the numbers right the
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bs the illustrations
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every illustration you've ever been
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shown by an agent is a lie
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say it again
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every illustration you've ever been
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shown by the agent is a lie future past
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present doesn't matter that hypothetical
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theoretical back tested agent hopeful
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unicorns chasing the butterflies as i
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always say is garbage in french mr fiax
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and that is i mean and to the carrier's
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credit they do put hypothetical on there
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i'm not blaming the carrier on this one
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because i i looked at an illustration
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before we jumped on i know these people
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think we rehearse this and we practice
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and no we jump on and stand and i have a
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conversation do we do we come off as
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two people that practice
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first yeah i know okay so
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one of the things on the top of the
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illustration it says this hype this is
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hypothetical in nature not contractual
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bingo okay that's fair bingo that's fair
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though okay but remember how we were
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talking about the stock market index
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thing and how you get an upside returns
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right this is what it says it says you
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cannot buy or directly participate or
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receive dividend payments from them
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that's not directly invested in the
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market then is it
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oh and me and you both know over 50 of
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the returns historically on the s p 500
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index just to choose one is over 50 and
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you're not getting that with an indexed
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annuity i just think and this and i want
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people out there that's purchased an
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indexed annuity to take this the right
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way and they pray and they purchased it
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for the upside and the growth and the
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pitch and the unicorns chasing the
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butterflies please take this the right
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way but you shut your brain off when you
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did that
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i mean
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i
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i've been saying this for a while that
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um when my clients
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call me about indexed annuity in the
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accumulation value story they dig in and
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they want to know the details and
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they're not the they're not i always say
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they're not the people that the agent
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most agents are looking for they're
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looking for the room at the table the
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sucker the person that trusts the person
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that's going to believe the sales pitch
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i just think people turn their brains
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off when they when they do that and
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they're buying either for fear or greed
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and when you do that you shut your brain
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off in a lot of cases well the greed
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outweighs common sense
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they know better they just want
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the sizzle and they they know better
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they know that it's not that but they
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feel like it was good because they
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really liked the guy and he's really
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good at what he said
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and i give a great example of that i had
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an agent that i was speaking with
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and closer to the bike mr fix people
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that i was speaking with and
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he
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sells one particular product and
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obviously i know we're not going to name
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names we don't want lawsuits no no we're
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not doing that right
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so we go through this
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the whole deal comes up right
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and he goes why sell this because it has
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guaranteed increasing income
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now if i told you stan put your money in
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here and every year you guarantee this
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increasing income what does that mean to
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you it means that i own social security
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and that which is the best inflation
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annuity on the planet but it does not
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mean that it's another product but
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social security doesn't guarantee you
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increase your income every year agreed
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but it's as close as you're going to get
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and so i i asked him i said what happens
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when the product makes a zero for that
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year because we will have zero years in
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the stock market no
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yeah that happens okay yeah
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he goes oh well they don't get an
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increase that year i go but you told me
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i have guaranteed increasing income i
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said words matter how you state things
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matters and how you decipher it matters
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i know what you're saying you're saying
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that if we have an increase
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their income will increase good
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inflation hedge i like the idea but what
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you told me was it was guaranteed
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increasing income the products aren't
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bad the carriers aren't to blame because
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the product is stacked it's how they
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understand it and how they relay that
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message
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in communication to the client
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and when and people that uh annuity
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companies do can build in like on an
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immediate annuity deferred income
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annuity or q lakh a cost of living
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adjustment increase but they simply
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lower the initial payment by 30 to 40
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percent as compared to the same annuity
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without same thing happens in the
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indexed annuity world mr fix you can
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explain this all they're doing
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is they are lowering significantly
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the initial payment you're not beating
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the system you're not smarter than your
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than your neighbor
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you haven't figured it out you haven't
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stumbled upon something
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am i correct mister f is 100 pennies in
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the dollar they're all playing with the
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same pennies in the same dollar so why
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can company a give you all of this and
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company b can't they're playing in the
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same playing field
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so what you're really telling me in a
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real world scenario is there is no pill
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that can make me skinny
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right more handsome
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i'll dunk on it there is no eight-minute
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abs even though i'm right now working on
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a program called six-minute abs
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no there's not okay and this is the one
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that that i was thinking about you the
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other day do you remember this thigh
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master for all you old people remember
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remember that remember the chick from um
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suzanne sellers okay do you know how old
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she is now
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she's like 70 75 74.
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and her thighs look great because she's
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using the thigh master not
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because the thigh master does not target
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the thighs
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it actually makes them bigger because
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your muscles grow the point is
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if it sounds too good to be true
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regardless of who's pitching it
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it is now indexed annuities are
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fantastic they're not too good to be
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true but they're pretty darn good if
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you're looking for cd returns and
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principal protection into it attach an
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income rider but what what mr fia x and
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i are discussing
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is the silly season of how
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of how
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these things are being pitched and i
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defy anybody listening or watching this
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listening on all podcast platforms are
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watching on the phone with annuities
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youtube channel
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if you purchased
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these index news i defy you to explain
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it to me
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i defined it to most of the agents to
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explain it to you
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exactly i mean there's just no way
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there's one that we're talking about
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we're certainly got not gonna name names
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of the carrier because we we love them
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we love all carriers and we really don't
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blame them because once they put it out
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to the agent army they can't they don't
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know what those guys are saying but
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let's go into some of the without naming
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names without naming product names let's
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go into some of the um
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what we call letters and numbers mr fiax
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and how you broke this dude down the
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other day tell that story because it was
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a good one well it's funniest because
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when i talk to that one agent and we'll
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go backwards is
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we were sitting there talking like and i
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had this is a separate agent he used the
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company we'll just call him xyz
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and he said if i put this amount of
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money in it's going to give me 40 000 a
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year for the rest of their life
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income he says and that's all that they
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need and i said well
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10 years down the line
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40 000 doesn't spend like forty thousand
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does it
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i go inflation was what five percent in
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june
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we got problem don't we
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yeah
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well we don't have a problem the the
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client has a problem and the agent's
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long down the road i said well what are
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you going to do to protect
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against you know
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the inflation the cost of everything
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rising
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blah blah i mean uh well you know this
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is what he needs knows what he needs
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today
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i don't know what
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they need in the future so we need to
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have a little better plan than just pick
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up all your money drop it in here and
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here's your check the problem that
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happens with that check stand is that
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the clients see the check and they get
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kind of ethered up and like woo 40 grand
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wow
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but you got to see the forest through
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the trees of what's coming down the road
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and i don't know what that is but you're
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going to need a little flexibility it's
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not just about the biggest number it's
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not just about how much i can get out of
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there and here's the one thing that
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everybody misses in nine to ten years
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that account will be gone
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the income will continue
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right but the cash value all your life's
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work got spent
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like that yeah because you're getting
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your money back with interest with any
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type of lifetime income payment and
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you're transferring the risk to the
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annuity company to pay for the rest of
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your life that's the reason always say
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there's no roi until you die mr fiax i
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want to i want you to dig in and explain
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to the
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to the dutiful listeners and and viewers
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of this podcast which is growing by
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leaps and bounds by the way
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um i want you to explain this sales
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pitch that is proliferating itself
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across the country in the fruited plain
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of all right you buy this index annuity
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and it increases
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you know the income increases with the
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index increase sounds absolutely
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fantastic from a 30 000 foot view can
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you please mathematically destroy that
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so the people aren't buying the dream
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because they're going to own the
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contractual reality
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well let's just break it down into
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simple numbers let's take cds
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how much are cds paying right now one
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i'm going to be nice and say one to one
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and a half percent yeah exactly at the
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time of this typing correct okay
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how much
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are guaranteed fixed traditional fixed
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annuities pay
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like like a multiple
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multi-year guarantee annuity you can get
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up at the time of this taping so look at
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the date please everyone three percent
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on a five year okay so we'll go about
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two seven five to three and a quarter
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between that right let's do that okay
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that's just what it is
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it's life baby so now i come in with
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this indexed immunity and i say look at
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the stock market it's killing it and
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we're going to do this and we're going
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to do that
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these were in range to do somewhere
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between
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about five to seven percent
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we will have some banner years don't get
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me wrong and that's where they catch you
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but historically mr fix historically
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but historically interrupt you
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just we've looked at it's around the
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four percent number it's in in recurrent
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environment with index annuities you
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should go into the accumulation value
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story and listen up all you agents out
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there all the one percent of you the
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other 99 consumers listen as well
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it's a two to four percent play in most
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cases from a return standpoint yes some
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years will be better
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but
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but
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the game the game that's being played
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with some of these products
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on the increase explain how they're
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doing that if you can paint that picture
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it's like showing paintings to blind
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people sometimes
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i think one of the things that i was got
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to note while you were talking is i see
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a lot of these companies say we'll give
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you 120 140 160 210 percent right
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participation
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so what they're saying is if you give
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them a hundred thousand dollars
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it's like a hundred and if you had 150
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participation it's like 150
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000 was working for you right right
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those index those indices that i
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typically find that have that leveraged
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amount
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do worse than if you just had
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60 50
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of a real index
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and when i say a real index i'm talking
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like the s p why is the s p so low like
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50 60 percent because it's expensive to
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buy the option
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so what the insurance company did and
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what all these people have done the
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their their product designers they build
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products and then they go to the
16:53
insurance company and say hey look at
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this cool product we built with our
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actuaries put your actuaries on it let
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them test it if it meets your product
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and goal objectives can we put it on
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your paper you back it and we'll go sell
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it for it
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and there's a lot of those out there
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they're proprietary products they're
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you know some good some not so good
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but i noticed because the s p index the
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dow jones the nasdaq those are the three
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like keys the russell maybe
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those are expensive to buy that option
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cost
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okay
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so for them to meet their goals and
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objectives what do they do they make up
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cockamamie indices
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some work some don't i give a great
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example there was one that came out
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years ago stan and you know what i'm
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talking about i didn't mention any names
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okay with a carrier
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that was at the time
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my eno insurance wouldn't cover me if i
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sold it how's that is that a fair
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statement it's fair because i have to be
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of certain rating or higher right
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and they pitched how if you would have
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sold this product there was never a down
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year since the history of inception
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because they back tested it and they
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showed it in the hypothetical and
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theoretical proposal
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uh package that they showed people
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there is i don't think
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today current and we're talking this is
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10
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12 years now yeah at least at least 10.
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i don't think it's above water yet
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right
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i don't think the index ever crossed
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where it was when it was
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put out to where it is now
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and if it did it's very minimal
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and the clients got nothing
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the agents got paid and the company that
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built it got rich
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and the only hope is if you attach the
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income rider to it and you bought it
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just for the income rider you can turn
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on the income stream but if you bought
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it straight for accumulation
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and growth
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um
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it is i mean it just it's a technical
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term there's a technical term for that
18:55
you got screwed that was the technical
18:57
term
18:59
the client got screwed they didn't they
19:00
made nothing
19:03
when you talked to this you told me the
19:04
story about the agent when you when you
19:06
got him back on the phone and you were
19:08
digging into this specific product and
19:11
it was the one that
19:12
increases your income with the index
19:15
um
19:16
what were the specific numbers that you
19:18
kind of drilled into his head and what
19:20
was his response
19:22
well i thought first of all the income
19:25
started significantly less
19:28
than other companies which is which
19:30
makes sense because they have to lower
19:31
the payment to make up for the potential
19:33
increase because annuity companies don't
19:35
give anything away it's like a running
19:37
start they were walking then then kind
19:39
of do a jog and then you get into a run
19:42
but by time you're running your
19:43
account's empty nine years the account
19:45
was exhausted
19:47
so
19:48
i personally have dealt with clients and
19:49
stan you probably have two but i don't
19:52
think it ever gets presented this way mr
19:54
klein put your money in here we're gonna
19:55
turn this income on and in nine years
19:57
every ounce of your hard work that you
20:00
ever did is gone this account will be
20:02
exhausted if you die there's nothing to
20:04
leave to the kids now you can do a joint
20:07
income with your wife so the income will
20:08
keep carrying we can do joint income now
20:11
but there will be no inheritance left
20:13
over for any of your loved ones now some
20:15
people will say i don't care about them
20:18
and some people will say oh i don't want
20:20
that
20:21
well we we certainly do that here i tell
20:24
people you're getting your money back
20:25
with interest at the if the account goes
20:27
to zero there's they the annuity company
20:29
are still on the hook to pay for as long
20:31
as you live
20:32
and as long as you are breathing but but
20:36
a lot of the pitches that i you know a
20:38
lot of people email me their pdf the
20:40
pitches they're getting and do that go
20:41
stand at the annuityman.com and i will
20:44
factually tell you the truth
20:46
but
20:46
the agents will say you can take off
20:48
take this income and the growth will
20:51
offset
20:53
the income you're taking out which which
20:55
me and you both know is mathematically
20:58
impossible that's the biggest line of bs
21:00
in the world and here's why i say that
21:02
let's just use four percent as a number
21:04
let's say the income rider pays out four
21:06
percent
21:08
let's say we make a zero for the year
21:11
how did i offset
21:14
you didn't now wait do they charge for
21:16
those income riders do they have a
21:18
charge for those riders
21:20
and those fees come out of the
21:21
accumulation slash index side of the of
21:25
the ledger it's typically about we'll
21:27
call it one percent yeah let's be nice
21:29
for easy math it's 95 basis points one
21:31
percent we'll call it one percent for
21:33
easy math they're taking one percent of
21:35
your gain
21:36
but not just the gain
21:39
comes out of the account value so if you
21:41
made interest of say four percent and
21:42
your account went to 104.
21:45
that one percent fee comes off the 104
21:47
doesn't it stan it definitely does
21:50
so now i paid 1 000 40
21:54
that would be 1 400.
22:03
every year
22:04
up or down doesn't matter they get their
22:06
take
22:07
this doesn't make it a bad thing
22:09
it just makes it you need to understand
22:12
the thing
22:13
well and also too i think
22:16
i've never heard anyone but but me or
22:18
you tell people this
22:21
the the writer
22:23
percentage that the income base is
22:25
growing by and by the way it's not jimmy
22:26
carter yield we can't send it to you and
22:28
it's not fungible and it doesn't
22:29
transfer and we can't cash it in
22:33
it's fake it's phantom but you can it's
22:36
that's the it's it's legitimate if
22:38
you're buying lifetime income that
22:40
starts in the future because we can
22:41
determine to the penny what that income
22:43
stream is going to be and shop all
22:44
carries like you shop a plane ticket but
22:46
what me and you tell people is whatever
22:48
that nice jimmy carter percentage is
22:51
the fee is growing by that every year as
22:53
well explain that
22:55
well let's do easy math rule of 72 after
22:59
7.2 percent interest your money doubles
23:01
in 10 years right mm-hmm so if the
23:03
income rider is 7 a year at the end of
23:05
10 years the income rider went from 100
23:08
000
23:09
to 200 000 correct correct
23:12
well then wouldn't that mean that my fee
23:14
went from one
23:15
percent to
23:16
two percent of my original deposit that
23:18
is correct and locked in forever at two
23:21
at two
23:23
well and that's not even and increasing
23:25
if you keep going correct if you if you
23:27
say well i don't want to turn it on in
23:28
ten years let's push it out and keep
23:30
that rider going for fifteen it's gonna
23:32
grow again
23:33
right
23:34
and when you turn on the income rider
23:36
does the fee stop the fee is for the
23:39
life of the policy as long as you're
23:40
breathing now these are just detailed
23:43
things that you need to know that's not
23:44
saying income riders are bad
23:46
income riders are transfer risk pension
23:48
products period but you have to
23:50
understand
23:52
that you're not buying an eight percent
23:54
if i get one more call and i get them
23:56
all the time i'm getting eight percent
23:58
i'm getting eight percent stan i'm
24:00
getting eight percent i found an annuity
24:02
to get me eight percent you only offer
24:03
three on the magaz and i'm getting eight
24:05
percent no you're not
24:07
okay and i and i hate to be harsh here
24:10
but the problem is a lot of the agents
24:12
that are pushing
24:14
uh index annuities only and most most
24:16
indexed annuity gun slingers out there
24:18
just sell indexed annuities they're
24:20
gonna allow you to believe that you're
24:22
getting eight percent and and the sad
24:24
part about that mr fiax is
24:27
people see that on their statement they
24:29
see that growth and then they don't turn
24:31
on the income rider and all they're
24:33
doing is making the annuity company rich
24:35
that's all they're doing uh instead of
24:37
transferring the risk and turning on the
24:38
income rider do you happen to know or
24:41
can you make a
24:42
guess on how many people
24:44
never turn on the income rider even
24:46
though they bought the income rider
24:48
i think i'm going to be kind if 93 94
24:52
do not turn on the rider five six
24:54
percent view and i think that i would
24:55
are you serious i think i would be being
24:58
kind in that okay let's say you're wrong
25:01
completely and it's 50
25:04
yeah let's just say it's 50.
25:06
you're saying stan it's way more than
25:08
that that's insanity
25:10
so
25:11
let's think about this wait i want to
25:12
think about this because you've been
25:13
doing this a long time like i have let's
25:15
go back 20 years
25:16
go back 25 years when income riders
25:19
didn't exist on these products right
25:21
right how many people actually took
25:23
income out of their annuities yeah
25:25
zero
25:26
virtually zero even though all
25:29
deferred annuities if it doesn't have an
25:31
income rider just just for
25:33
your knowledge based on that you can
25:34
annuitize it you can convert it into a
25:36
lifetime income stream if you want to do
25:38
that i'm gonna blow i'm gonna blow
25:39
everyone's head off right now you
25:40
already watched this one let's do it for
25:42
all the ira people people that own irish
25:45
boy i see a lot of these guys put income
25:47
riders on people's iras right right
25:50
which
25:51
depending on the circumstance may be
25:53
justified or not i don't know correct
25:58
but think of it this way
26:00
at 70 and a half back in the day at 70
26:03
and a half you had to turn on the end
26:04
you had to take your distribution and at
26:07
the time of this typing at 72 look at
26:09
the time
26:10
back in the day it was seventy and a
26:11
half right okay
26:13
seventy two now but it was seventy and a
26:15
half i want to play off of seventy and a
26:16
half for right now okay okay the old
26:18
rules
26:21
when i would talk to clients
26:23
the first thing they would say to me is
26:25
do i have to take this money
26:28
i'm like well yeah the government forces
26:30
you to take this one yeah you have to
26:31
they go but i don't need it
26:34
don't have to take it i don't need it i
26:36
go because the government wants their
26:38
cut
26:38
you made a deal with the devil you
26:40
didn't even know it they let you
26:41
accumulate all this money for all this
26:43
time
26:44
now they want their take
26:46
so at seven and a half you have to turn
26:48
it on the number one chosen distribution
26:50
in america was what
26:52
minimum
26:54
why
26:55
because they didn't need the money
26:56
why do i want to take money that i don't
26:58
need
26:59
and pay tax on it
27:03
you mean to tell me in 25 years that
27:05
flipped all the way to where everyone
27:07
wants their money that's a that's that's
27:09
a good point and i always tell people if
27:11
you're going to buy the income rider
27:14
then we're going to turn it on we're
27:15
going to we're we're going to remind you
27:17
that we bought it for future income
27:19
we're going to remind you that the
27:21
percentage growth is a phantom account
27:22
and it's not jimmy carter yield we're
27:24
going to remind you that we put this in
27:26
place for a pension
27:28
and we're going to remind you to turn it
27:29
on because there's that's the value
27:31
proposition of an income rider attached
27:34
to an indexed annuity period not to
27:38
watch it but i i would love i i call
27:41
this the procrastination ratio i would
27:43
love to know the pro the true number and
27:46
the in the companies will never tell you
27:48
that oh i don't think they'd ever want
27:50
to give that number out because it's a
27:51
it's an insane money maker to the
27:53
carrier but i guarantee when they have
27:55
the when they have the grand pub
27:57
meetings and the marble floors and
27:58
they're sitting in there and they're
27:59
smoking their cigars and drinking the
28:01
lattes
28:02
there's a question that comes up that
28:04
says what's the residual number on the
28:07
riders that's never going to get turned
28:08
on
28:10
and they can they give that residual
28:11
revenue number i bet it's gargantuan oh
28:14
my god to be and here's the funny part
28:16
so when i deal with agents and we
28:18
educate them here's the fun part stan
28:21
they go yeah but if they live long
28:23
enough and they out contact you then
28:24
they're in the insurance company's
28:26
pocket and i laugh because
28:28
that's true that's true
28:30
but they're missing that's like saying
28:32
zero is your hero which is another
28:34
saying that index annuity people say as
28:36
well that's dumb but here's what they
28:39
forget
28:41
remember that hundred thousand we put in
28:44
they collected a fee for how long
28:47
as long as you're there i'm breathing as
28:49
long as you're there and breathing off
28:50
of the interest so if it grew
28:53
and then had interest so let's say you
28:54
left it in there for 10 years it grew to
28:56
135 140 000. they stroke they they raked
28:59
one percent every year on that when you
29:02
turned on the rider they ranked that one
29:04
percent fee off of that amount on the
29:06
way up and on the way down didn't they
29:08
all and all the way
29:10
so let's say you actually lived past
29:13
your life expectancy where the agent
29:15
goes well they got into their pockets
29:17
hahaha
29:18
no you just got your fee money back
29:21
you didn't get in anybody's pocket they
29:23
just paid you back with your own money
29:24
didn't they
29:25
which leads me to
29:27
and you just triggered something that i
29:29
tell people all the time and and i get
29:31
these calls
29:32
and really smart people that are are
29:34
obviously attracted to stan the annuity
29:36
man as as you can well imagine mr fiax
29:39
and they'll say well
29:41
you know i could you know i'm looking at
29:42
these uh and do you choose the income
29:45
rider dsp akilah well my investments
29:47
could beat that my god i hope so
29:50
we cannot
29:53
if you are making a correlation or an
29:56
analysis between an investment an
29:57
annuity you're an idiot
30:00
you are an absolutely that's that's like
30:01
saying i bought a hugo and i bought a
30:04
ferrari and i'm going to compare how
30:06
fast they go it's that ferrari for some
30:08
reason wins the race every time i can't
30:10
understand why
30:12
if you can manage your money
30:15
okay and you don't want to turn key
30:18
build an income floor that complements
30:20
your social security then you don't need
30:21
an annuity of any type the reason people
30:23
choose annuities of whatever type
30:26
they're choosing
30:27
is they're transferring risk they're
30:29
either transferring most the time it's
30:30
transferring the risk for principal
30:32
protection or it's transferring the risk
30:34
for lifetime income and then there's
30:36
also a legacy play and a long-term care
30:39
play if those so my acronym is pill
30:41
principal protection income for life
30:42
legacy and long-term care confinement
30:44
care if you don't need to solve for one
30:46
or more of those four then you do not
30:47
need an annuity of any type notice
30:49
there's no g for growth which leads us
30:51
back to the indexed annuity silly season
30:53
mr fiax about
30:56
these products being pitched for market
30:58
growth even though they're not
30:59
securities
31:01
well they're going to give you a better
31:03
than average chance at a better than
31:05
average return say it again
31:08
a better than average chance at a better
31:11
than average return but not guaranteed
31:14
no
31:15
but not guaranteed now the return's not
31:17
guaranteed but the but the principle the
31:19
protection all the other things so what
31:21
you're doing is you're willing to trade
31:24
a guaranteed rate lesser guaranteed rate
31:26
say two and a half to three and a half
31:28
percent
31:29
for some upside if you can live with
31:31
that i guess for lack of a better term
31:33
risk because i'm
31:35
i'm giving away the burden of hand to
31:37
maybe get a little more
31:39
in the bush yeah if you're willing to
31:40
live with that yeah over time index
31:43
annuities will outperform just a regular
31:45
static
31:46
fixed deal they should they should they
31:49
should they may not
31:50
but they should
31:52
one thing i want to go back to real
31:53
quick on these numbers things because i
31:55
know that some of the agents you're
31:56
going to get some hate mail or you'll
31:58
get some from your client stand
32:00
that will say my guy told me well if i
32:02
die that this amount in that income
32:05
account will pay out to my beneficiaries
32:07
there are some products that work like
32:09
that some hundred percent true they can
32:11
take it out over a specific period of
32:13
time basically five years correct here's
32:16
the part that they left out
32:18
there won't be any money left in the
32:20
account so they're not going to get
32:21
anything
32:22
when the accumulation value goes to zero
32:25
which will be in nine to ten years
32:29
all that other stuff goes away
32:32
you are just on a paycheck of
32:34
a monthly paycheck at that point and
32:36
when you go those checks stop
32:39
and i always tell people the best legacy
32:41
product on the planet is life insurance
32:42
it's the best return on investment you
32:44
will never see i'm talking about level
32:45
term those type of things
32:47
you know if i ever mr fix if i ever show
32:49
up dead just out of the blue not covered
32:53
then my wife has killed me because um i
32:55
have so much life insurance
32:58
but it's the best it's the best transfer
33:00
risk life and uh legacy product on the
33:02
planet when you're buying lifetime
33:04
income you should not be buying lifetime
33:06
income
33:07
regardless of the four products remember
33:09
spsd is qlax income riders those the
33:11
four income lifetime income guarantee
33:13
products or strategies you should not be
33:15
buying for legacy you should be buying
33:17
it for lifetime income you should be
33:18
buying it for filling the gap on the
33:20
income floor and just
33:21
as a reminder you can go to my site at
33:23
theannuityman.com and run quotes 24 7
33:26
365 without having to talk to be me or
33:29
anybody else thank you very much
33:31
pro consumer so
33:33
and you can see the number i got this is
33:35
funny off the top of this little i want
33:36
to
33:38
i'm gonna lose this hold that you're
33:39
smarter than that well you're younger so
33:42
that i don't know it's smarter but
33:43
you're younger so hold that thought the
33:45
guy said
33:47
stan the annuity man america's annuity
33:48
agent and by the way everyone does
33:49
address me like that he said stan the
33:51
annuity man america's annuity agent
33:53
i don't like this payout this payout's
33:55
low and my comment to him was i guess
33:57
you're you're kind of pissed off because
33:59
you're young right
34:01
because really what he was saying is i
34:03
don't like the payment because i'm young
34:05
because it's primarily based on life
34:06
expectancy at the time you take the
34:07
payment so when you say oh
34:10
oh look the return return
34:12
it's it's a it's a mortality credit
34:14
transfer of risk shared pool pension and
34:18
if you don't like the payment you you
34:20
you don't like the fact that the annuity
34:21
company's looking at you from and
34:23
looking and saying hey that's a
34:25
youngster even though you might be in
34:26
your 60s
34:28
i have two answers for that number one
34:29
is put in more money
34:31
and you get a bigger payment
34:32
number two is start older and then
34:35
you'll get a higher payment for less
34:37
time as i said car payment yeah take a
34:40
four-year car payment i i pay less for
34:42
longer if i take a shorter payment i pay
34:44
more for less time or same thing in
34:46
reverse i just i always ask people it
34:49
just i said answer me this question this
34:51
is an easy one you can answer it is are
34:53
your social security payments higher at
34:55
age 65 or 70. well it's 70 there's
34:58
reason i'm going to wait bingo chester
35:01
bingo same thing all right what sage
35:04
part of advice did i cut off that you
35:06
retain that you want to share with the
35:08
people well i think it's something that
35:10
that
35:11
the lay person may miss and it was it
35:13
was this is really pointed believe it
35:15
you actually said something good believe
35:16
it or not here we go
35:19
when you go on all these websites and
35:21
you run quotes
35:23
you are going to get inundated they are
35:25
taking that information and they are
35:27
selling it except for us this is where i
35:30
wanted to go stan doesn't care go run a
35:33
quote your big boys your big girls you
35:35
want professional help from a real guy
35:37
that knows what he's doing we figure
35:39
you'll call us we don't need to call you
35:42
exactly i call myself the walking middle
35:44
finger of annuity truth for a reason if
35:46
you want to speak with me you have to
35:48
schedule call because i respect you and
35:50
treat you as a professional these other
35:52
places are lead mills they're selling
35:54
your name for 150 to 300
35:56
to a bunch of agents and you are going
35:58
to get inundated we do not share we do
36:01
not sell we do not it is
36:04
confidential information you can run you
36:07
can go to my site and know that if you
36:09
run quotes
36:11
no one's going to call you no one's
36:12
going to show up your doorstep you're
36:13
not going to get something in the mail
36:15
asking to go to a bad chicken dinner or
36:17
expensive steak dinner and yes i am
36:20
self-promoting because i think this is
36:22
the way
36:23
annuities should be purchased i had
36:25
recent podcast guests he said well stan
36:28
the annuity man america's annuity agent
36:30
you know people just don't wake up in
36:31
the morning and say i'm going to buy an
36:33
annuity they do with us
36:34
we do have a site where annuities are
36:36
bought not sold i mean now the vast
36:38
majority and we're talking about indexed
36:40
annuities most indexed annuities are
36:43
sold
36:44
because
36:45
it's too complex to make a decision on
36:48
your own terms even though i send you
36:50
the book that i've written on index
36:51
annuities and i've done
36:53
hundreds and hundreds of videos and i
36:55
have mr fiaax on still
36:58
still as i always say there's five
37:00
people in the world that can explain
37:01
index annuities and i don't know the
37:03
other three because two of them are on
37:04
this podcast
37:07
bingo it's really pretty but i think
37:09
it's really important to understand when
37:11
you go put your name in that computer
37:12
and you type in for a lead it goes into
37:14
some source and they take that lead and
37:16
they will sell it they're actually going
37:17
for 350 a lead right now they will sell
37:20
your information to someone for 350 and
37:23
they'll sell it multiple times they're
37:24
not stupid this guy doesn't know i sent
37:26
it to that guy so i'll just sell it to
37:28
like 10 people you will get inundated
37:30
with calls from
37:32
the worst of the worst and here's why if
37:35
you have to buy people's names you have
37:38
done something wrong in this business
37:41
exactly
37:43
i totally i totally agree and that's the
37:45
reason we put out all this content i
37:46
want to talk about bonuses we talked
37:48
about in a couple the other two podcasts
37:50
that we have
37:52
you know put on the uh you know in the
37:54
evergreen content world to be consumed
37:56
by
37:58
uh thirsty individuals for the rest of
38:00
their lives it's just great yeah what
38:02
we're doing mr fix is just fantastic
38:05
i think you got to pay attention to the
38:07
bonus and where it goes and i think this
38:08
is a really big misnomer here like a lot
38:12
of people say oh they're going to give
38:13
me and i'm going to use hypothetical
38:14
numbers so we don't uh get in trouble
38:16
with any carrier shannon you're gonna
38:18
give me uh they're gonna give you a 21
38:20
bonus on my money 21
38:22
21 oh my god you put a hundred thousand
38:24
in you have 121 000 day one holy crap
38:27
marge why wouldn't we do that well i
38:29
don't know either we never get the
38:30
application out
38:34
ask where that 21
38:36
goes
38:37
thank you
38:38
i promise you this it doesn't go into
38:40
your account value real money it's not
38:44
real money it doesn't go into your real
38:47
well yeah i think it's a deterrent you
38:48
have a real money account a fake money
38:50
account do you think the insurance
38:52
company is just going to hand you 21 000
38:55
of real money
38:57
so you're telling me there's no
38:58
philanthropist at annuity companies they
39:00
are not a benevolent society
39:04
they are a profit-making company and
39:06
there's different kinds of profit making
39:07
companies they're stock companies right
39:09
you go on the stock exchange and they
39:11
buy stocks so they report to
39:12
shareholders there's mutual companies
39:14
where they report to you
39:16
the client right
39:18
you're the owner so they have to pay out
39:19
dividends if they have extra cash they
39:21
got to pay out the dividends and pay it
39:22
out to you the shareholders at the end
39:23
of the year i personally like mutual
39:26
companies because i think they do give
39:29
you a little more fair shake they don't
39:30
have to worry so let's get back to this
39:32
21 bonus mr f-i-a-x
39:35
that sounds good
39:37
well it is good now i that's why you
39:38
should put more than 100 000 and if we
39:40
take 300 000 you'd get 63 000 and look
39:44
at what your account looks like and that
39:45
is amazing so when you turn this income
39:47
on this income is going to pay you this
39:49
amount of money increasing for the rest
39:51
of your life and your wife because we'll
39:53
do a joint income and you'll always have
39:54
this check amazing and we're tied to the
39:57
stock market so you're going to
39:59
participate in the stock market like
40:00
returns but if i let me ask you a
40:02
question mr x
40:04
if i compared and shopped all income
40:07
riders
40:10
it going to finish first contractually
40:11
on the payout
40:15
that one won't come finish first on the
40:17
payout but
40:18
once again is if you're focused
40:21
i hate when
40:22
it's not the client that's focused on
40:24
the number as much as it is the agent
40:26
that's my belief
40:27
i believe the agent shows the biggest
40:30
number they can because the greed factor
40:32
on the client outweighs the common sense
40:34
i'll give you a great example let's say
40:36
i only need to get twenty thousand
40:38
dollars of income to solve my problem
40:40
but this income rider spits out forty
40:42
thousand
40:44
the client goes oh my god that's twice
40:46
as much as we need
40:48
here's what i see
40:49
you're gonna exhaust your account a
40:51
whole lot faster you're paying tax on
40:52
twenty thousand dollars more money than
40:54
you need and you're gonna have nothing
40:55
left when you may need it
40:59
and i always tell people when you're
41:00
running income quotes
41:03
reverse engineer the quote our quote
41:05
machines have that where you can put in
41:06
okay we need x amount per month how much
41:08
premium is it going to take shopping all
41:10
carries and find the best carrier that
41:11
requires the least amount of premium
41:14
and so the inflation thing comes up okay
41:17
inflation well
41:19
in my perfect world and i do as you know
41:22
mr x i do live in a perfect world that
41:25
at the time you need to address
41:27
inflation
41:28
then we again reverse engineer solving
41:30
for that monthly dollar amount needed
41:32
but inflation is not is not uniform
41:34
inflation
41:35
for staying the annuity man doesn't
41:38
affect me like other people because i
41:39
don't drive i just get on a plane
41:41
occasionally but you know we i don't
41:44
drive anywhere my kids are out of the
41:46
out of the home thank god
41:48
so you know we don't have that type of
41:50
food bill anymore um the point is
41:53
inflation is also customizable and
41:56
personal
41:57
so i always say address it when it comes
42:00
up build the income floor to that
42:02
specific dollar amount that you need
42:04
you know and then when inflation hits
42:06
because uh you you suffer because if an
42:08
agent says to you i have the annuity
42:10
that in dresses for inflation and tracks
42:12
it they are full of crap period
42:17
well i mean there's products yeah
42:19
there's products out there that that um
42:22
have inflation riders will call it cpi
42:25
but
42:26
inflation but
42:28
etc but you know
42:31
what does that exactly cover what's it
42:33
capped out at what does it match that i
42:35
mean there's a lot of moving parts and i
42:38
think you go back to like annuities like
42:39
you were saying is there their annuities
42:41
are still sold they're not bought except
42:44
except at the annuityman.com no they are
42:48
they are bought um because i would say
42:50
um
42:52
i don't know the percentage is pretty
42:53
high 20 to 30 percent at this point are
42:55
people that we've provide they've run
42:57
the quotes we've provided the
42:59
information we've sent the books and
43:00
then they email or call in and say we're
43:02
ready to go and here's why because they
43:05
educated they took the time to educate
43:08
themselves and they didn't take their
43:09
whole life's work and educate themselves
43:12
in a 90-minute or 60-minute bad chicken
43:15
dinner seminar right and if someone ever
43:17
says to you you need to buy it now
43:18
because the bonus is going away or you
43:20
need to buy it now because this cap or
43:21
spread of participation rate is going to
43:22
get loaded you need to buy now all that
43:24
means is the agent needs to make a car
43:26
payment um because there's never an
43:29
urgency to buy an annuity the urgency is
43:31
to fully understand it and then make
43:32
your decision on your terms and your
43:35
time frame i do encourage people listen
43:37
to this if you want to dig into indexed
43:38
annuities then go to my site at
43:40
theannuityman.com and schedule call top
43:42
left-hand corners book a call book a
43:44
call with me we'll talk about it there
43:46
are a handful of of indexed annuity
43:50
that uh that that i like that i've been
43:52
literally guided to by mr fiax that we
43:57
think they are fair and we think that
43:59
you have a potential to get a better
44:01
better than average return
44:03
um if you want to see those i'll show
44:05
them to you we're not going to promote
44:06
them on this because they're not paying
44:08
me ad fees
44:10
mr x well but i don't like to promote
44:12
anything in particular until i
44:14
understand your
44:15
circumstances i don't know i don't you
44:18
know you want to hear the crazy parts
44:19
then
44:20
maybe a fixed index the new youth income
44:22
rider is not free
44:24
no
44:26
no you're not saying you're saying it's
44:28
not one size fits all
44:30
i'm just saying you know here's
44:31
something that i think about that's
44:32
pretty funny and i think you and i i
44:34
think you're gonna agree on this
44:36
if i put a hundred thousand dollars in
44:38
it rolls up to two hundred thousand at
44:40
the end of ten years like income riders
44:41
work and i turn it on and at the end of
44:43
ten years the account's empty which is
44:46
what will happen
44:47
isn't that really a ten year certain
44:49
with a life expectancy
44:51
[Laughter]
44:52
come on you're getting detailed you're
44:54
starting to do facts again come on
44:56
so
44:57
why not accumulate the best money i
44:59
could possibly find and i would think in
45:01
10 years interest rates might be a
45:02
little bit better
45:05
and then you move the money into a
45:07
vehicle that is built to literally pay
45:10
out income
45:12
well and that's that's what i call
45:13
deferred sphere that's deferred to speed
45:15
as deferred deferred deferred defer and
45:17
then by speed at the exact time and
45:18
immediate duty
45:20
and the cool part is this you don't need
45:22
to take all the money to buy this fiat
45:23
just take what you need let the other
45:25
stuff keep growing and then you can keep
45:26
filling the bucket back up
45:28
hey mr x i've got the greatest
45:31
business idea for you i have not shared
45:33
this with you because i was waiting to
45:34
get your facial expression that's a joke
45:36
because he's wearing a mask
45:38
on what i'm getting ready to say um
45:41
i was on a podcast the other day and we
45:43
were talking about cryptocurrency et
45:45
cetera and the person says
45:48
stay in the annuity manner america's
45:49
annuity agent do you ever think there'll
45:51
be a cryptocurrency fiax and i said i
45:54
don't know but that's a pretty good
45:55
sales pitch and here it is
45:57
oh what's coming like
45:58
here it is here it is you can share
46:02
in the upside of cryptocurrency with no
46:05
downside mr jones how much of that do
46:08
you think we can sell oh my god this way
46:11
just look i personally think crypto is
46:13
here to stay in the the i do too
46:16
technology's here to stay but all the
46:18
stuff they're slinging around here
46:20
99 of those things won't be here some
46:23
will but the majority won't but the
46:25
technology's gonna stay technology's
46:27
here there's over 5000 cryptocurrencies
46:29
i read the other day on espn that some
46:31
guy that doesn't even start for ucla
46:33
basketball team he's on the bench for
46:35
ucla mr x he started his own
46:37
cryptocurrency sure this is insanity
46:40
this reminds me of when the goobers were
46:42
out there going well i'm going to start
46:43
my own hedge fund you're an idiot you
46:46
don't even know what that's funny i mean
46:48
people that are doing the crypto yes
46:50
that the blockchain technology's here
46:51
but i just was going to throw that at
46:53
you if you ever decide and i i'm not
46:56
sure i could ever do this because you
46:57
know
46:58
um i care about the people out there but
47:01
if you ever wanted to leave your morals
47:04
at the door
47:06
if you guys want man
47:08
yeah this is a blockchain fia sharing
47:12
the upside no downside
47:14
we're talking about record-setting sales
47:16
mr x what do you think
47:19
yeah that's a tough one huh you know i
47:22
guarantee you people are going to call
47:23
me i heard you talk about that crypto
47:25
indexed annuity i'd like to put a
47:28
million in that one we're joking we're
47:31
we're joking
47:32
we're joking
47:35
but the problem is though is they'll
47:37
always keep trying to find a way to do
47:39
that the only downside i think would be
47:41
is i i i would be very curious to see
47:43
what the option what the hedge cost
47:44
would be to try to buy an option on
47:46
something so volatile oh my goodness i
47:48
would think it would be quite expensive
47:50
but i don't
47:52
what do you know you're the expert mr x
47:55
you know he is um
47:57
i know what else is happening out there
47:59
i mean we got a few more minutes and the
48:00
people are leaning in they've pulled
48:02
their cars over they've stopped the
48:03
treadmill
48:04
uh so that they can listen intently to
48:06
you mr f-i-a-s
48:10
i want to go back kind of where we
48:11
started with a little recap is remember
48:13
those illustrations and stuff are
48:14
hypothetical and i told this language
48:16
out of one of them which i thought was
48:17
hysterical says it's not intended to
48:19
serve as a projection or a prediction
48:24
that's what it says all the agents do is
48:25
they show you look look what this could
48:27
do they use it as the projection they
48:29
use to read that again that's from the
48:31
proposal it is literally out of the the
48:34
illustration and i challenge all of the
48:37
people on here read the illustration and
48:39
you'll be like what and i promise you
48:41
majority agents can't answer the
48:43
questions so read that read that
48:44
sentence again
48:46
the illustration is not intended to
48:48
serve as a projection or prediction
48:50
except for the guaranteed values
48:54
so in other words everything below here
48:56
ignore except don't ignore it because
48:58
that's part of the sales pitch right
49:00
ignore everything except the one column
49:02
where it says guaranteed
49:06
iron
49:07
i know i i and here's the sad part about
49:09
this it doesn't make them bad no no it
49:12
means you have to understand what you're
49:15
getting into i i encourage people to go
49:20
to the new to the annuity man stand the
49:22
annuity man youtube channel which is
49:24
different from the fun with annuities
49:25
youtube channel yes i do have multiple
49:27
but the standing annuity man youtube
49:29
channel if you go to the playlist
49:31
section of that mr x i've done a ton
49:34
of videos on indexed annuities to the
49:36
detail you can go to my site at
49:38
theannuityman.com i'll send you a book
49:40
called the fi 8
49:42
owner's manual fixed index annuity
49:43
owner's manual
49:45
could be the best thing ever
49:48
uh and guess who consulted on that mr x
49:50
i mean we
49:51
dug in there yeah we dug in there and
49:53
got it done my first book
49:56
the annuity stanifesto yes had a great
49:59
section on index annuities which mr x
50:01
helped out on the point is educate
50:04
yourself
50:05
and and don't be afraid to ask for a
50:08
specimen policy
50:10
okay not just a brochure a specimen
50:12
policy and if any agent balks at giving
50:15
you a specimen policy
50:17
that person is not your agent now the
50:19
only way you're using an agent other
50:21
than the annuity man is it's your
50:22
brother-in-law or sister-in-law that's
50:24
selling you know annuities that's the
50:26
only way that's even scarier that's even
50:28
scary but or or and don't or i heard one
50:31
the other day of the uh indexed annuity
50:33
seminar at the church
50:36
guy was guy was soliciting the flock he
50:39
was flocking the flock and it was
50:41
horrific church that's church that's
50:44
scary
50:46
so just be careful out there any last
50:48
words mr fiax obviously you're going to
50:51
be on again
50:53
um you know when your learjet you know
50:55
lands in the states and i can get you on
50:57
online anything out there for the people
51:00
when it comes to indexed annuities
51:02
because once again
51:04
they're not too good to be true but
51:05
they're pretty darn good when you
51:06
understand them and use them
51:08
appropriately what would you tell the
51:09
people it's easy just a few simple
51:11
things number one figure out what you
51:13
want to do stan this is something that
51:15
we've always said it's your money what
51:16
do you want to do for you yep so you
51:18
need to figure that out okay number two
51:20
is you need to educate yourself read up
51:22
take the time i think i find it amazing
51:24
that in 60 minutes you'll give me your
51:26
life savings
51:28
uh
51:29
with a good steak dinner with a steak
51:31
that's cooked medium rare warm in the
51:32
center i have always found that amazing
51:35
okay
51:36
and and read and get educated and then
51:38
the third part and i think this is very
51:40
important
51:41
take a pad of paper and a pen
51:44
leave it on the counter
51:46
and as the weeks go by keep writing
51:48
questions down on that path
51:50
and then you make your call to stand and
51:52
then go through every one of your
51:54
questions and
51:56
don't do anything
51:58
until those are
51:59
answers are satisfactory to you and you
52:01
fully understand yeah the last thing i
52:03
want to i want to add this
52:05
is advisors and agents should never be
52:07
your friend
52:08
you know i have thousands of clients
52:10
they are not my friends
52:12
i am not their friend i'm their advisor
52:17
you don't want your cancer doctor to be
52:19
your friend and when agents start using
52:22
hey look at my kids or look at my
52:24
grandkids or you went to state u and i
52:26
went to state u
52:28
put them back in their lane and say
52:29
enough about that let's talk about the
52:31
details of what you're trying to sell me
52:33
i could give a rip
52:35
about your kids your grandkids where you
52:37
from and all that stuff that's just
52:39
fodder to
52:41
earn your trust the trust should be in
52:43
the policy the trust should be in the
52:45
contract this trust should be in the
52:47
carrier that you're transferring the
52:48
risk to and the trust should be and the
52:50
contractual guarantees only and lastly
52:53
the trust should be in the competence of
52:55
the agent to explain it crystal clear to
52:57
you
52:58
factually not not some sales stuff right
53:01
no exactly
53:03
you know what mr fix we have blown
53:05
through another session easily of course
53:07
because we're rolling we're like butter
53:10
right on a roll get it mr f
53:13
i understand well listen to everyone out
53:15
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