035 Should you transfer your 401k retirement plan to an annuity?

December 15, 2020
28 min
035 Should you transfer your 401k retirement plan to an annuity?
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IN THIS EPISODE, THE ANNUITY MAN DISCUSS:
- What a 401K is and how it affects your retirement.
- Market growth versus contractual guarantees.
- Shopping annuities like you shop for plane tickets.
- Understanding proportion and allocation.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- What do you want the money to contractually do? When do you want those contractual guarantees to start?
- If you want market growth, don’t buy an annuity.
- The best annuity is the one that provides the best contractual guarantee for your specific needs.
- Nobody knows what is going to happen with inflation. If hyperinflation hits, at that time you solve for what you need then.

"You have to be specific about what you want the money to contractually do." — Stan The Annuity Man

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welcome to fun with annuities with your

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stan the annuity man america's annuity

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agent licensed in all 50 states

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and i'm glad you joined us for today's

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topic it's a good one so let's

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jump right in today's topic is should

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you take your 401k

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plan and transfer it to an annuity

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now let's just kind of go backwards a

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little bit

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the stats are huge it's a demographic

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tidal wave

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of baby boomers that reach the age of 65

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every single day in the united states of

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america

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now typically when people get to ch what

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i call

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chapter two of their life they are

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looking for

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more guarantees they're looking to

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transfer risk

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not everybody but a lot of people

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because you've worked you've saved

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you've

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you've been through market cycles you've

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been through market gyrations you've

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been through all that stuff

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and you're like wow you know i just kind

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of need more income to combine

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with my social security in the future

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and all that stuff you're looking for an

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income for most people

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but that doesn't mean every single

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person

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that has a 401k should

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transfer all their money to to an

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annuity now obviously

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agents and advisors are salivating

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because there's so much money in motion

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that's what they call in the business

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money in motion meaning that

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you have this 401k and then you know

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you're leaving the company now you've

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got to roll it into an ira which by the

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way is a non-taxable event

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so what do you do with that money do you

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keep it in the market you keep it in

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mutual funds

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now interestingly enough in this country

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less than 10 percent of all private

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companies even

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offer pensions anymore i mean back in

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the day you got the gold watch and you

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got the pension got the lifetime income

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stream paid by the company

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a while back they switched from what

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those are called as

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a defined benefit plans to what we now

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know

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as a defined contribution plan and a

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defined contribution plan

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in english in in things we understand is

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a 401k and a 401k in essence is

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you know mutual funds and they're

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getting a lot more choices but

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you know most of the time it's just

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mutual funds that you hope are going to

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grow

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the company probably matches and you've

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been through some market gyration it's

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pretty scary now

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currently in in the environment we're in

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right now there's some

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legislation to put some annuity income

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type products inside a 401ks but that's

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going

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very very slow from the standpoint of

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implementation

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so getting back to do you need an

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annuity

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for your 401k assets the first thing you

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need to understand is when you say the

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word annuity when i say the word annuity

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when anyone says the word annuity

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that doesn't mean one product there's

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many types of annuities that do

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different things so when people say i

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hate all annuities

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that's like saying i hate all

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restaurants i hate all trucks i hate all

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socks

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i hate all shoes right i mean it doesn't

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make any sense

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so you know when you're talking about

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annuities

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you got to kind of drill down what are

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you looking to do what do you want the

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money to do but that doesn't mean you

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need an annuity now

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um just to digress a little bit i would

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can run quotes on our site etc

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but let's get back to the topic there's

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two questions you need to ask yourself

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if you need an annuity if you want to

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find out if you need an intuition you

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might not

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okay and the two questions are and if

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you've heard this before bear with me

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but this is how simple it is

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and by the way for the people that are

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listening to me on the podcast

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um you know on spotify and itunes all

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that stuff you can also go to fun with

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annuities youtube channel and watch this

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chaos while i'm

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why i'm yelling at the annuity fund can

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scream and the will do not might do

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studios i mean i'm having some fun here

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but i'm passionate about this because i

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don't want you to make a mistake with

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your 401k assets so here are the two

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questions

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what do you number one what do you want

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the money to contractually do

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keyword contractually underline it

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highlight it

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okay and the second question is when do

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you want those contractual guarantees to

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start

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let me do it again what do you want the

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money to contractually do

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and when do you want those contractual

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guarantees to start

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now when you have your 401k assets if

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you come to me and those two questions

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and

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and the answers are well i won't i still

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want market growth

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then don't buy an annuity it's really

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that simple

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annuities are contracts all variable

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annuities have limitations on your

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investment choices

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in my opinion having worked for the big

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firms morgan stanley ubs payne weber

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dean witter

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all of those firms when you want real

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market growth

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real upside real potential never buy an

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annuity

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never ever buy an annuity okay so if

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your answer is i just kind of want a

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reasonable rate of return i just kind of

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want

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some market growth i'm okay with some

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risk then don't buy an annuity

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all right but if your answer is

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i want to protect the principal i don't

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want to lose a penny

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then you might need an annuity there are

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two types that do that

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okay or if you say i need lifetime

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income and i need it to start either

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right now or down the road and i want to

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set it up for me and my spousal partner

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and i want it to pay joint life

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and i want to pay forever if one of us

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dies i want it to continue uninterrupted

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and unchanged for the

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surviving spouse's life and when they

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die i want whatever money is left in the

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account to go to the beneficiaries and i

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don't want the evil annuity coming to

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keep a penny

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then you might need an annuity so what

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do you want the money to contractually

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do

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when do you want those contractual

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guarantees to start if it's market

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growth or any type of growth or it's

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five seven eight percent growth don't

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buy an annuity

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straight if that's it i don't care what

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anybody shows you hypothetical

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theoretical back-tested projected

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hopeful agent nonsense unicorns chasing

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the butterflies

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do not buy an annuity for market growth

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and if someone's pitching you

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market upside with no downside or market

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participation with with principal

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protection

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they're pitching an indexed annuity

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which is a cd product and only half of

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that statement's true

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which is principal protection and that's

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fine i sell more indexed annuities

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anywhere on the planet probably

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or close to it i haven't met people to

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sell more

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but it's a cd product period it's not a

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market product so

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with your 401 k assets you have to be

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very specific with me and with yourself

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on what you want the money to do and if

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you want an annuity which is a contract

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not an investment don't believe me

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you're going to get a policy in the mail

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and it's a contract you buy it for the

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contractual guarantees you own an

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annuity for what it will do not what it

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might

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do so that doesn't mean you need to put

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all your 401k in an annuity if it's

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suitable and appropriate

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the other thing that i've come up with

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and again if you've if you've read my

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books or

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seen other videos you know i have a

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standing nudey man youtube

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video channel as well as the fun with

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annuities youtube video channel

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but the the stanley annuity man youtube

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channel you can just type in standing

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annuity man

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in the search bar 300 plus videos and we

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just keep adding them and adam and i

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and i and i go over annuities but one of

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the things i always talk about is the

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acronym i've come up with called pill

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p stands for principal protection i

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stands for income for life l stands for

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legacy

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and the other l stands for long-term

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care let me do it again principal

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protection

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income for life legacy long-term care

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confinement care

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if you don't need to contractually solve

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for one or more of those items in the

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pill

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you do not need an

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annuity of any type period

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in historic america's annuity agent top

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agent in the country

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written seven books on the subject okay

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i i understand

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believe me i know what i'm talking about

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and if that means that when we talk and

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you

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go to my site you can schedule call with

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me um 30 minutes you get me for 30

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minutes one-on-one and it is going to be

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brutally factual

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it's not going to be touchy-feely it's

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going to be let's talk about if you need

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an annuity and if you do

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then let's figure out what type of

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annuity will provide the highest

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contractual guarantee which leads to the

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pill acronym

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and those two questions that's the

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reason i always

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ask the two questions because let's just

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say

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that we go through that you've set the

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call you've run the quotes you went to

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my site ran the quotes got the books

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looked at the live fix rate feed that we

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have on our site watched the videos

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really educated yourself

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then we got on the phone and we

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determined that

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you need a specific annuity type whether

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it's a multi-year guarantee annuity an

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indexed annuity a

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deferred income annuity an immediate

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annuity qualified longevity annuity

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contract

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i mean we're going to drill down and

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we're going to find out which one is

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going to provide the highest contractual

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guarantee

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but when we do that then i'm going to

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shop

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all carriers all carriers

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for the highest contractual guarantee

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think about

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buying an annuity like when you buy a

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plane ticket

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you know i mean you go and buy the best

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deal you put in how you want to travel

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you know where you want to go when you

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want to go when you want to leave when

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you want to come back

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and punch it in and everyone all the

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carriers

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quote quote on that and then you choose

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the best deal right

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same thing with annuities so if somebody

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if if if there's

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agents or advisors that have been

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assigned by the company to come in and

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talk about you

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for rolling your 401k into an ira or

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possibly annuities and they're showing

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one product

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they're either lazy they don't have

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access to all carriers

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or they want to go on a trip to bora

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bora with a girlfriend okay if they sell

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enough of it

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people always ask me all the time stan

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what's the best annuity i don't know

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that

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i don't even know if you need an annuity

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but let's just say you do we come to

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that conclusion

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i still don't know what the best annuity

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is because you know what

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the best annuity is the one that

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provides the highest contractual

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guarantee

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for your specific situation oh by the

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way

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annuity quotes are like a gallon of milk

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meaning that they expire every seven to

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ten days

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you can lock them in during the

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application process but if you if you

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want to analyze it we might have to come

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back and re-quote carriers

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that's fine but i'm i'm tired of

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this person said this was the best one i

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get a call today great story

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401k rollover okay large firm

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this person was presented one carrier

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one product was only shown one thing and

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to make matters worse

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they wanted this person to buy three of

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them

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so to take you know take six hundred

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thousand dollars and buy

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two hundred and two hundred and two

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hundred okay

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whatever i i was like that makes no

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sense i mean

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you can diversify with annuities as well

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but here's

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another thing you have to kind of put in

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the back of your head i'm probably the

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only person out here that's going to

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tell you this

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but the annuity industry does not want

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you putting all your eggs in one basket

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they do not want you to put

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really more than 50 of your investable

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assets

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that include houses and cars and all

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that guitars and all that stuff

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we're talking about investable assets

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non-qualified non-ira

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accounts roth ira accounts traditional

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ira accounts 401k 403b 457.

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you know all that stuff okay the annuity

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industry is is very

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conscious of the fact that they do not

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want my mom in st augustine florida

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putting all their money into an annuity

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the only way that it can get through is

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if if the application is fictitiously

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filled out which i tell you

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get a copy application you know with us

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you'll see that you'll see the

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application okay

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but the annuity industry does not want

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you to have

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more than 50 so let's just take an

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example

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i got a call the other day the guy has

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800 000

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in his 401k all right and i said okay

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that's great and he's been pitched

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seven hundred thousand dollars in an

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annuity one annuity okay

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like okay so the first thing i asked was

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like tell me like the total investable

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assets i don't wanna know the holdings

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just tell me the investable assets

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he said well i have about nine hundred

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thousand dollars total that's

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checking account ir you know 401k etc

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and this person that that was

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recommending was recommending 700 000

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no if you have 900 000 what's half of

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that 450

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right so the annuity industry feels

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comfortable

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if it's suitable and appropriate and you

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know we go through that process

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for about 450 000 we can maybe push the

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carriers if we give them a case you know

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to make it 50 or 55

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or whatever but you can't go all

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in with annuities you just can't and you

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shouldn't

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because you have to look at it another

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way as well

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when you retire and you have your let's

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just say you retire at age 65

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all right you have to look at your life

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expectancy and i know this is somewhat

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morbid and i'm not the grim reaper but i

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do want to

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cover this you're 65 years old you you

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have a 401k you roll it into an ira what

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do you do with it now

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you have to understand you have at least

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20 more years

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of life expectancy or more if there's a

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medical breakthrough right so you have

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to plan for that

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which leads me back to my original point

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about annuity annuities should never be

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purchased for market growth so in if

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you're retiring you have to keep some

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stuff

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in some market growth type products or

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non-annuity products

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but you can have 50-ish percent in

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transfer risk

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annuities whether it's for principal

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protection or lifetime income stream

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so that's the first thing be very

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careful i mean the sharks are swimming

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and they smell blood and the blood is

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the 401k money rolling and it's a

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lot okay so agents and advisors are

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wanting to roll that

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into annuities and of all types

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okay but what you have to understand is

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the annuity industry

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doesn't want that in the there's a

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there's a lot of good people out here in

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the annuity industry

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that won't allow you to put you know

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over 50 of your assets in but there's a

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lot of people that will

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and unfortunately all those people seem

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to call me that that's getting those

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recommendations

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so you just have to understand

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proportion and allocation

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and regardless of who you are regardless

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of the risk you want to transfer because

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in essence annuities are transfer risk

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products

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you're transferring the risk to the

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annuity company to either provide you a

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lifetime income stream that you can

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never outlive by the way annuities are

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the only product that can do that

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and always tell people there's no roi

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until you die because

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roi is a return on investment because

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you're transferring the risk

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i mean we don't know the roi until you

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die right but you can just buy annuities

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for principal protection

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multi-year guarantee annuities are the

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cd of the annuity industry

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okay fixed indexed annuities are a fancy

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cd

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but they both protect the principal

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period end of story if that's what you

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want to do and just get an interest rate

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cd type interest rate

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the problem with the index annuity story

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in the pitch

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is agents and advisors seem to push and

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pitch it to where it sounds too good to

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be true

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just remember with annuities i don't

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really care what type or

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if it sounds too good to be true it is

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every time

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no exceptions period annuities or

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contracts

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the way that i think that um people with

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401 k should start looking at annuities

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when they retire

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or if they're making decisions should i

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transfer some of my 401k

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to an annuity type you know is looking

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initially at your income floor what is

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your income floor that's your social

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security that's a pension if you're so

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fortunate

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that's your dividend income that's

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rental income that's whatever is hitting

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the bank account every month

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and then an annuity because it's the

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only product on the planet that provides

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a lifetime income stream that you can

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never outlive

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that's part of that okay so if you said

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i need

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5 000 a month to live on me and the y

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for me and the spouse or me and the

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husband

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me and the partner then um

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a thousand we but we need a thousand of

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that we got four thousand sewed up but

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we need another thousand that's where an

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annuity can fit you can do a reverse

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engineer quote

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that solves for that thousand dollars

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for the rest of your life now

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inflation yeah that's the gorilla in the

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room that's the little chip on the

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shoulder

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we have no idea what's going on with

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inflation and there's not an annuity on

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the planet regardless of what anyone

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tells you

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that can that can adjust accordingly

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with inflation

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so what i tell people to do is if

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inflation hits or hyperinflation hits

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then you know you we go and buy an

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immediate annuity

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to solve for that specific dollar amount

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at that time so give you example the

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five thousand dollar example we fill in

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the gap with a

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say an immediate annuity for solving for

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a thousand dollars a month

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okay and then let's just say

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hyperinflation hits and we need another

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700 then we do a reverse engineer quote

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again

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to buy an immediate annuity for the 700

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for inflation by the way

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you already own the best inflation

17:51
annuity on the planet which is social

17:53
security

17:54
now let's talk about another thing we

17:56
talked about 401ks and there are

17:57
you know those are defined contribution

17:59
plans and you got to make a decision

18:00
what do you want the money to

18:01
contractually do what do you want it to

18:03
do if it's market growth you don't buy

18:04
an annuity right

18:05
but for the people out there that are

18:07
listening and watching

18:09
on the fun with annuities podcast video

18:12
let's just say you're with one of the 10

18:14
companies 10

18:16
of the companies 10 companies that's

18:17
funny 10 of the private companies that

18:19
still

18:20
offer a pension to their dutiful workers

18:23
and i get a lot of these calls and i

18:25
encourage you to call me if this happens

18:27
to you

18:27
so you're getting to the finish line

18:29
they say okay we're either gonna give

18:31
you

18:31
six hundred thousand dollars lump sum or

18:34
we're going to pay you i'm making this

18:35
out at the

18:36
up three thousand dollars a month the

18:38
rest of your life so they're either

18:39
offering the lunch time you can roll or

18:41
they're offering

18:42
in essence a single premium immediate

18:44
annuity payment

18:46
that they that you know that they the

18:48
company that you work for is going to

18:50
back up

18:51
and and and pay you over the rest of

18:53
your life so

18:54
the question i always get is which one's

18:57
better

18:58
should i take the lump sum or should i

19:00
take the

19:01
single premium immediate annuity

19:02
lifetime income stream they're offering

19:04
not a good answer just bad sales pitches

19:06
right nod your head of course

19:09
but you need to you need to understand

19:11
and make a decision what you want the

19:13
money to do so if

19:14
if you get to that finish line and

19:16
they're offering the lump sum and you

19:17
say well i really don't need the income

19:18
take the lump sum and then go manage it

19:20
for growth or whatever you're going to

19:21
do

19:22
but if you say you know what i think we

19:24
need me and me and the spouse

19:26
needs the lifetime income stream and you

19:28
know it and

19:29
so the the call i get and i got one this

19:32
week

19:32
hey stan i've been getting i've been

19:35
shown this number

19:36
is this a good number is this a good

19:38
contractual guarantee

19:39
now what we will do pro bono for free no

19:42
obligation we won't bug you

19:44
and by the way on a side note you

19:46
schedule a call with me i'll never call

19:47
you out of the blue

19:48
okay i treat you like a pro because i am

19:51
a pro

19:52
i'm the number one agent for a reason i

19:54
i only will call you

19:55
if you schedule a call because i respect

19:57
your time um

19:59
but people people will say okay is this

20:01
a good deal so what i'll do is i'll run

20:03
an apples to apples quote

20:04
i'll have them send me you know you can

20:06
send me the offer and i'll look at the

20:08
way that the

20:09
immediate annuity is structured by the

20:10
way immediate annuities can be

20:12
structured 30 to 40 different ways

20:14
so i'll do an apple apples quote to to

20:17
see

20:18
if the street all of the carriers have a

20:20
better contractual guarantee than your

20:22
employer is

20:24
offering spoiler alert

20:27
your employer about i'd say 85 to 90

20:30
of the time that we've you know since

20:32
we've been doing this for decades okay

20:34
they offer the highest contractual

20:37
guarantee lifetime income stream and you

20:38
guys say wait a minute why would that be

20:40
why would

20:41
xyz corporation that's not in the

20:43
annuity business

20:44
offer a better lifetime income payment

20:47
then all of the big

20:48
carriers and the all the carriers you

20:50
love and and you know you see on tv with

20:52
the ads

20:52
they're guarantees here's the reason

20:55
when when they're offering that lifetime

20:56
income stream

20:57
they're making it so it's higher than

20:59
what i can quote all carriers for most

21:02
of the time because that company your

21:04
ex-employer

21:05
wants to hold on to that money and not

21:07
have to come up with that lump sum

21:09
if you think about it if you think

21:10
logically about it it makes sense

21:13
so i'll do that apples apples quote and

21:16
and i

21:16
85 i'd say at least 85 of the time your

21:20
company that your ex-employer is going

21:22
to offer a higher pension plan payment

21:24
so then the decision is if you still

21:26
need income

21:26
is do you believe that your employer

21:29
ex-employer

21:30
has the claims paying ability to back up

21:32
that lifetime income stream

21:33
maybe they do maybe they don't if

21:35
they're absorbed if they go out of

21:36
business and they get absorbed by the

21:38
pension benefit guarantee corporation

21:40
all bets are kind of off on what that

21:42
guaranteed income stream would be

21:44
so if you don't feel comfortable with

21:45
the claims paying ability the size the

21:48
you know the industry they're in you

21:49
just don't know if they're going to be

21:50
around

21:51
then you might want to take the lump sum

21:54
and then buy the immediate new annuity

21:56
on the outside

21:57
okay but i'm just letting you know we

21:59
will do those apples to apples quotes

22:01
and if you're with a big fortune 500

22:03
type company

22:04
solid then i'm going to tell you stay

22:07
there take the lifetime income stream

22:08
take the higher quote

22:09
because you own a new annuity for what

22:11
it will do not what it might do

22:13
so the will do is the contractual

22:14
guarantee if i can offer that

22:16
off you know shopping all carriers then

22:18
fantastic then you're going to be my

22:20
client and you're going to be happy

22:22
but if someone else if an employer is

22:25
offering a better

22:26
payout then you got to go with that if

22:28
if they are if they're a strong company

22:30
because you're buying an annuity and

22:31
you're buying the highest contractual

22:33
guarantee

22:34
period now the other thing that i kind

22:36
of want to cover and i know i'm getting

22:37
in the ways i do encourage you to go to

22:39
my site it is

22:40
user friendly okay the annuityman.com

22:43
and you can like i said get my books you

22:45
can use our calculator you can run

22:47
quotes on your own you can see live

22:48
fixed rate feeds you know you don't have

22:50
to interact with anybody but if you want

22:52
to interact then you just schedule call

22:54
with me and i'll call you right on the

22:55
money because i'm ocd like that

22:57
you know a little bit of a military

22:58
background parents sent me to military

23:00
school so i'm on time and when i

23:02
hang my uh shirts and everything's like

23:04
two inches apart my wife's like oh my

23:06
gosh

23:07
she's been married to me for 32 years

23:09
bless her heart but i'll call you right

23:11
on time

23:11
and it's not a salesy thing i'm gonna

23:13
we're gonna talk about your

23:14
your situation and you know i'm gonna

23:17
leave you i'm gonna give you all the

23:18
information you need and then i'm gonna

23:20
leave you alone and then you're going to

23:21
tell me

23:22
if you want to buy by the way if you

23:23
want us if we go through the process

23:26
and we determine that you need an

23:28
annuity and we determine the type

23:30
and we run the quotes and we have the

23:32
conversation then my team will take care

23:34
of all the paperwork from start to

23:35
finish and oh by the way

23:37
if you decide that the annuity that we

23:39
that we show you we're going to shop all

23:41
carries

23:41
works then we'll take care of that

23:43
paperwork and it is a

23:45
non-taxable event it will not

23:48
trigger any taxes transferring from the

23:50
401k or ira

23:52
to the annuity carrier so i want

23:55
i want that to be very clear that you

23:58
know

23:58
it's it's not going to trigger any taxes

24:01
money's not going to hit your hands

24:02
money's not going to touch my hands it's

24:03
going to go from

24:04
you know the 401k to the annuity company

24:07
that you choose or if it's annuity

24:08
companies if it's a laddering situation

24:10
or a multi multiple carrier situation

24:12
that we come up with

24:14
then that's what we'll do okay so just

24:16
just to let you know we do it turn key

24:18
and we're licensed in all 50 states

24:20
but boy are we getting ahead of our skis

24:22
a little bit here going back to the

24:23
original premise

24:25
do you transfer your 401k to an annuity

24:29
it really comes down to what you want

24:31
the money to do remember what i said

24:33
remember that and if it's if it's income

24:35
do you want it

24:36
single life income do you want a joint

24:38
life income

24:39
um you know remember the pill p it

24:42
stands for principal protection i stands

24:43
for income for life l stands for legacy

24:45
and other l stands for long-term care

24:47
remember the two questions what do you

24:48
want the money to contractually do

24:50
when you want those contractual

24:51
guarantees to start

24:54
so i know i've thrown a lot at you you

24:56
know it's a big decision you only make

24:58
it once

24:59
be careful shop around you know if

25:02
annuities are appropriate then shop all

25:04
carriers get

25:05
quotes take your time always tell people

25:07
this that

25:09
there's never an urgency to buy an

25:11
annuity the

25:12
urgency is to understand the annuity

25:15
limitations benefits good bad

25:18
all of it and if you want to see a

25:20
specimen policy before you sign the

25:22
paperwork meaning the policy you're

25:24
going to get without your name on it but

25:25
the actual verbage we'll send you that

25:28
and any honorable agent or advisor would

25:30
would send you that as well so

25:34
it's a lot right i mean i'm going 100

25:36
miles an hour i'm energetic i love what

25:38
i do i'm staying the annuity man i'm

25:39
america's annuity agent i want to talk

25:41
to you i'm not going to sell you i'm not

25:42
going to i pitch you but i am going to

25:44
give you

25:45
the brutal truth you know somebody

25:47
somebody a long time ago wrote and said

25:49
standing nudity man is the walking

25:50
middle finger of annuity truth

25:52
that might be that might be a little

25:54
abrasive but i am i

25:56
embrace that because it's factual uh i

25:59
am passionate what i do i know what i'm

26:01
talking about

26:02
i don't need to sell another annuity in

26:04
my life to to live a good life i'm

26:06
fortunate for that

26:07
but i like what i'm doing and i like

26:09
what we're doing here the annuity man

26:10
which is

26:11
changing the game to pie in the sky

26:13
hypothetical theoretical back tested all

26:15
this dream stuff

26:16
you know i'm going to tell you here buy

26:18
the steak not the sizzle

26:20
buy the contractual realities because

26:22
instead of the dream

26:23
because you're going to own the

26:24
contractual realities you know it's

26:26
really that simple

26:27
so with that being said i encourage you

26:30
if you have if you're

26:30
at the at the finish line first of all

26:33
congratulations

26:34
you worked you saved you got this big

26:36
401k

26:37
you've saved all these assets you

26:39
encourage you go to my site and schedule

26:40
a time

26:41
with for us to talk but i want you to i

26:44
want you to do a couple things i want

26:45
you to celebrate the fact that you got

26:47
to the finish line i want you to

26:48
understand that there's no u-hauls

26:50
behind hearses

26:51
and when i say that i want you to live

26:52
your life you know we don't know how

26:54
long we're going to be here i'm not

26:56
going to get too philosophical

26:57
but i do have clients that call me and

26:59
say man i give a million dollars to feel

27:01
better

27:01
so you know go live your life go enjoy

27:04
your family go travel go do the things

27:06
you do and i know at the time of this

27:07
taping

27:07
we're going through some tough things in

27:09
the country with with covet and the

27:11
virus

27:12
but you know it's a moment in time and

27:13
and that will eventually pass

27:15
we live in a great capitalistic country

27:17
there's going to be there's going to be

27:18
companies out there that are going to

27:19
figure out

27:20
how to get us through this and get some

27:22
vaccines in there so i'm optimistic

27:24
you should be optimistic you have a 401k

27:27
what do you do with it you should be

27:28
optimistic

27:29
but you should be very very specific on

27:32
what you want the money to do

27:34
so with that thanks for joining me join

27:37
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28:24
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28:27
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