002: What is a Single Premium Immediate Annuity?

October 20, 2020
24 min
002: What is a Single Premium Immediate Annuity?
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IN THIS EPISODE, THE ANNUITY MAN DISCUSS:
- What is a SPIA and how does it work
- The history of SPIAs
- The benefits and limitations of a SPIA
- How to get your free copy of the SPIA Owner’s Manual

KEY TAKEAWAYS:
- SPIAs are simple & efficient transfer of risk pension plans
- SPIAs quotes are customizable to contractually guarantee your specific goals
- SPIAs are commodities, and all carriers should be quoted to find the highest contractual guarantee
- SPIA payments are primarily based on your life expectancy, not interest rates

"Single Premium Immediate Annuities (SPIAs), 99.9% of the time, are going to have the highest contractual guaranteed payout. Period." — Stan The Annuity Man

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welcome to

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fun with annuities with your host me

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stan

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the annuity man america's annuity agent

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facts about annuities

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nonsense

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truth which is all you need to hear

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let's have some fun with annuities and

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let's have that fun

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start right now

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hey this is stan the annuity man and

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welcome to fun

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with annuities today we're going to talk

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about a product called

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single premium immediate annuity in the

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industry it's called aspia spia which

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stands for single premium immediate

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annuity

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it's also called an income annuity a

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pension annuity an immediate annuity

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but at the end of the day this is the

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granddaddy

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of all annuity types this this was the

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one that started it all

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and we'll kind of get into the history

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of it etc now

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what i'm going to do is the outline of

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this podcast really comes from the book

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that i've written one of the

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seven books on annuities that i

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published and you can buy on amazon or

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get it from me either one you want

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and the book's called spea owner's

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manual so it's a single premium

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immediate annuity owner's manual

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i'm actually holding it in my hand you

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might hear the pages flip because i want

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to make sure i'm covering

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everything because when i wrote the book

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it was all-encompassing it's 45 pages

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long

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it's very easy to read and before you

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buy anything

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especially an immediate annuity you know

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you need to have this book so you know

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contact me

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at stan at the annuityman.com or go to

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the annuityman.com and sign up and get

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yours for free and i'll ship it to you

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or you can go to amazon and buy there at

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your call but the bottom line is i've

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already covered it and what we're going

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to do is just cover it in an audio

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version

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today but you're going to hear me flip

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pages because i'm holding it in my hand

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because i spent a lot of time to

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concisely put it together

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so let's kind of get started you know

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this was the only

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type of annuity that was sold in the

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united states until about 1955

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so it's been around for a long long time

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the history of the product is

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is fascinating single premium immediate

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annuities in the word annuity comes from

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the word

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annual a nua it's a latin word for

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payment

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and in the roman times the roman empire

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created these payments these lifetime

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income guarantees for the

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dutiful roman soldiers and their

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families so i mean they were getting

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immediate annuity payments if you look

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at

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social security it is an immediate

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annuity payment it really is it's a

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lifetime income stream that you can't

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outlive and that's really what

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an immediate annuity is but with all

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products that

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i show people and recommend or talk

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about

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we start with the benefits and the

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limitations so let's do that

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so first of all let's start with the

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limitations

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which is always where i like to start i

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want people to know the truth about

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these products

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limitations on an immediate annuity is

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that it really doesn't have a lot of

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liquidity

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in fact most of them have none there are

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some out there that offer

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liquidity but anytime an annuity company

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offers anything

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they're going to lower the guarantee so

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you know you might have agency

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well mine does well yeah but you'll get

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a lower a lower payout always tell

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people

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if you need liquidity then you're

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putting too much money into an immediate

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annuity the immediate annuity

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should be a product that is earmarked

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for pension

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and you can set it up for your life for

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you and someone else's life or you and

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your spouse's life

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et cetera we'll go through you know how

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to structure it all the choices that you

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have

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but the one that kills me out there is

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people say i hate annuities you really

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hate pensions because this is what a

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pension is it's an immediate annuity

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structure so

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there's not a lot of liquidity there's

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no market attachment so there's no

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upside opportunity

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so if you want an investment don't buy

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immediate annuity the contract is rigid

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so you know it is what it is you're

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going to get your money back

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if you outlive your life expectancy you

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can you can structure so that 100 of

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your money

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goes to the beneficiaries one of the big

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things out there people say i don't want

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to buy an immediate annuity because when

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i die

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the annuity company evil annuity company

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keeps all the money well that's only one

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way to structure the product

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you can structure it so that you still

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get a lifetime income but if your

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learjet hits the mountain and you die

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100 of the money goes to your listed

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beneficiaries

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in most cases with these immediate

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annuities they're irrevocable meaning

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that you can't call me up

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four months later say hey stan send me

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all the money back you're going to get

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the money back but it's going to be in

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payment form

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and typically an immediate annuity the

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payments are in a static form meaning

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the payments are never going to change

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now you can attach

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what's called a cost of living

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adjustment writer a cola cola

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or cpiu consumer price index rider that

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increases and that sounds great

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but always remember that annuity

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companies have the big buildings for a

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reason they have the big planes and the

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big logos on the plane for a reason they

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don't give anything away so if you want

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to attach

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an annual increase to the income stream

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it sounds fantastic

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they're going to lower the payment so

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you already own

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the best inflation annuity on the planet

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and that is called social security

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because they raise it based on when they

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want to get votes

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annuity companies don't care they're

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gonna they're gonna price it in

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based on your life expectancy etc so so

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those are the limitations

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you know limited liquidity no market

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upside rigid contract irrevocable

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and static payments versus cola okay

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the benefits it's a contractually

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guaranteed income stream for life you

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can never outlive it

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if you set up joint life then your

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spouse can never outlive it

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you can customize how you structure it

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meaning that

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if you want to have the highest payout

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that's life only meaning that when you

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die money goes poof

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but it does not have to be that way you

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can also structure it so you have a

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lifetime income

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okay and if you die 100 of any unused

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money goes to

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the beneficiaries and the evil annuity

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company doesn't keep a penny you also

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construct it for a period certain

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meaning

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hey stan i just wanted to pay for 10

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years okay we can do that or 15 or 20 or

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25 or 22 or seven

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just remember it's customizable to

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exactly what you want to achieve

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again it's a lifetime guarantee the

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annuities

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are the only product category that will

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pay you for the rest of your life

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and also too remember this you're going

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to hear a lot of pitches out there

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well my annuity you need to buy my

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annuity and turn it on

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immediately let me just tell you this

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and remember this immediate annuities

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99.9 of the time are going to have the

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highest contractual guarantee payout

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period because they're just structured

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that way so if anyone's trying to fit a

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square peg into a round hole and say

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buy my index annuity with an income

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rider and turn it on immediately

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in most cases that's just a straight

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commission play in most cases

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so you know if you need income between

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30 days and a year which is

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is the definition of an immediate

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annuity

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the income can start as soon as 30 days

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from the contract issue date or as

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long as a year year 13 months et cetera

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then an immediate news is going to

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provide the highest contractual payout

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as i said in the limitations you can

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attach increases cpis and colas

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but that's going to limit the payout

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that's going to lower it okay

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not limit but lower it compared to the

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static form and in most cases

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depending on the math it's it's a seven

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and nine year breakeven point if you

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compare the same exact annuity with a

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cola

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and compared to without a cold and in my

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situation

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most of the time when we have a

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discussion

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my clients decide to go ahead and take

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the static payment just a time value

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money calculation

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so these can be set up joint with a

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spouse that can be set up joint with

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anybody really you just got to tell me

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exactly what you want to do remember

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they are customizable

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and immediate annuities are efficient

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they're transparent

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in essence they're a transfer risk

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strategy that is just unmatched you're

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transferring the risk to the annuity

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company to

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pay you or pay you and your spouse or

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you and someone else

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for the rest of your lives regardless of

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how long that is

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so you're transferring the risk to pay

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so people always say

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you know what's the roi on immediate

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annuity i don't know that until you die

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so when you die i'll go to your funeral

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i'll sing a very nice song

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and i'll tell everybody the roi because

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up until that point i don't know you're

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transferring the risk

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so don't don't look at immediate news as

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investments and try to compare it to

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whatever bonds whatever and there's a

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lot of people out there saying immediate

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annuities versus bonds that's

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to me standing nudity man number one

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agent in the country licensed in all 50

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states

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that's garbage annuities are contracts

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so you have to look at it as a contract

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one of the other things i like one of

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the limit of the benefits is

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they're easy to understand and there's

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really no market attachments to them so

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those are the

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the limitations the benefits of the

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product

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so in my opinion and we talked about the

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history of these

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and they've been around for a long long

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time there's nothing new here so when

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people say i hate annuities really do

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you hate do you hate pensions do you

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hate

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social security no you of course you

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don't which means you don't hate

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immediate annuities

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now where where financial journalists

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get caught up and some of the

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some of the people that are against them

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for their own agendas

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it's all about opportunity costs when

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you when you put your money into an

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immediate annuity you're giving

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up some opportunity and market

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opportunity you have to be fine with

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that but that also leads to

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me and you having a conversation about

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allocation in proportion

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and that's you know that's a big deal

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immediate annuities primarily solve for

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longevity risk and what that means is

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outliving your money it's a very

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fancy way the journalists like to talk

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about outliving your money

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so you know remember it's will do not

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mind do you buy an annuity for what will

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do not what it might do and the will do

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for an immediate annuity is the

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contractual guarantee

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and when you get that policy and you

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look at that number

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this is what i'm gonna get paid a month

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or if you decide to get it quarterly or

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semi-annual or annually you can do any

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remember it's customizable

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that number's not going to change unless

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you attach a colon we talked about that

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that's just going to lower the payment

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so nuts and bolts like how's that how's

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the sausage made with

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with an immediate annuity bottom line is

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an immediate annuity payment is a

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combination

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of return or principle plus interest yes

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i said that return of principal

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plus interest so there's a lot of people

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out there trying to sell these things

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and they'll attach a percentage

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you're going to get a seven percent

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payout on an immediate annuity i think

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that's misleading because

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people instinctively attach that to a

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bond payout or cd payout or fixed rate

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annuity payout no

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the seven percent is a combination of

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return on principal plus interest so i

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think that's very very misleading

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especially in the low interest rate

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environment where people are

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are yearning for something higher right

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so when you see that well

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say i'm getting paid out seven percent

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on this immediate annuity

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that's really a reflection of your life

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expectancy because at the end of the day

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the primary pricing mechanism on

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immediate annuities is your life

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expectancy

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not interest rates interest rates play a

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secondary role but they don't drive the

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train

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they're not the primary train driver so

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people say i'm trying to time interest

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rates well you're an idiot

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no you're not actually you're a nice

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person but you're you're misled

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because in the world that we live in

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from financial journalism financial tv

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you know they're always talking about

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interest rates but with annuities and

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lifetime income stream it's about your

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life expectancy when the payment starts

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and that's how

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the annuity companies base the payment

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so

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people always say well stan if i wait

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two more years

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to get my immediate annuity will the

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payments be hired yes because you're

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going to be older and your life

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expectancy is going to be less which

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means they're

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predicting less payments it's really

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that simple now

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with interest rates and we talk about

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that what's the bogey what do you need

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to watch it's really the 10-year

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treasury

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but the 10-year treasury united states

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senior treasury

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percentage that note really needs to

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significantly move

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to move the needle it's really about

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life expectancy

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what you really need to watch out for is

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annuity companies

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moving the life expectancy tables

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meaning

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predicting you're going to live longer

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if they do that there's going to be more

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payments which means that

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the payments will be less so it's really

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a true commodity product there's

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you know fifty hundred i don't know i

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represent a mom we quote

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an immediate annuity we quote everybody

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on the planet i have no idea who's gonna

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finish first i have no idea

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anything all i know is the quote only

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lasts seven to ten days like a gallon of

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milk and then we have to re-quote it

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unless you lock it in and start the

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paperwork

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but single premium immediate annuities

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are commodity products you have you have

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to

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quote all carriers you know i have a

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system

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standingannuityman.com or the

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annuityman.com that

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helps filter all of that out we have we

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have a system where i can punch in your

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information

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and then find out through all the

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carriers across the country

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the the top contractual guarantee now

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from there

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then we have a conversation about claims

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paying ability ratings conduct scores

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etc

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but it's remember will do not might do

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buy for the contractual guarantee so

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buying an immediate annuity is similar

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to buying a plane ticket okay

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you punch in the number and let's see

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who has the best contractual guarantee

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don't try to time rates i mean that's

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the biggest thing i can tell people

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and i know there's people out there

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going well you're just you're just

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selling no i'm not

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selling okay this is reality

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you just can't time it and if you wait

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let's just say

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well stan i'm going to wait for a year

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well

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if you wait for a year then to buy the

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immediate annuity

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then you rationally have to factor in

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the year's worth of payments that you

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missed if you didn't buy it today that's

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not a sales pitch

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that's just reality and immediate

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annuities and annuities in general

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it's all about math what's the math does

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the math

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work for you and i tell people all the

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time if you don't need income right now

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don't buy an immediate annuity you can

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always

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keep your money in the market and at the

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time you need income

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then you you know you buy an immediate

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annuity

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so you can do this a couple ways you can

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say hey stan you you know here's x

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amount of money

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here's a lump sum how much would that

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pay or

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in we'll quote that or you can reverse

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engineer it you can say hey stan

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my wife and i need two thousand five

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hundred and seventy five dollars a month

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to fill in an income gap as part of our

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income floor

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how much premium how much money would

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take to create that so we can reverse

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engineer the quote

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either way so like i said before you can

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customize it you can do life only

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you can do life with a period certain

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life only is you know when your legit

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hits the mountain money goes poof life

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with period certain is

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it's going to pay you for life but if

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you die

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within that period certain then in other

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words if it's life intent

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it's going to pay you for life or goals

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how long you live but if you die in year

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two you get eight more years of payment

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somebody in your family

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or you can do what's called life with

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installment refund or life with cash

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refund which means

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that they figure out the period certain

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to the

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to the day of your life expectancy so

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it's still a lifetime income guarantee

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but 100 of your money will go back to

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the beneficiaries either in payment form

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or lump sum payment forms installment

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refund

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a lump sum is cash refund i like to use

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immediate annuities as income

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gap fillers so you know as part of your

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income floor

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your pension your social security

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whatever other income things you have

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you know let's fill in that gap and you

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can do that a myriad of ways you can you

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can do that with reverse engineering you

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can ladder

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you can do all kinds of things you know

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to fill in that income gap

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so the other thing too from the

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standpoint of predator and creditor

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protection

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you know annuities in general pass that

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side of probate but in a lot of states

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you know the the ambulance chasing

15:48
people that run into you with the car

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and try to see

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they can't get to it which is kind of

15:52
cool obviously don't buy it for that but

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it's one of those

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added benefits that you need to know

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about

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the immediate annuity has a cousin

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product called a deferred income annuity

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which we'll talk about in another

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podcast

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but it's the same structure the only

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difference is once you defer past 13

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months

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once you defer for the income from

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starting

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13 months then it turns into a deferred

16:14
income annuity and not a meeting

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it's in essence the same thing so one of

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the other things i want to talk about

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quickly is what's called the exclusion

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ratio and i know i'm throwing a lot at

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you and that's the reason you need

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to to contact me and get the book

16:27
because then you can read it on your own

16:28
terms and then re-listen to the podcast

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but in exclusion ratio when i talked

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about getting your money back with

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interest

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you know return of principal plus

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interest is the payout structure

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in a non-ira setting and you can use an

16:41
immediate annuity inside of an ira or

16:43
outside of an ra

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but in a non-ira setting you're not

16:47
going to pay taxes on the return of

16:48
principal

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you'll pay taxes on the interest so part

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of that

16:52
income stream is excluded ie exclusion

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ratio from taxes

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so that's also something you need to

16:59
remember

17:00
now with an exclusion ratio until you

17:02
run out of money in other words until

17:04
until the run out of money meaning your

17:06
account's at zero the the company's

17:08
still on the hook to pay you for the

17:09
rest of your life

17:10
up until your account goes to zero and

17:13
you're living forever

17:14
it's an exclusion ratio of return of

17:17
principle plus interest you're only

17:18
paying

17:18
taxes on the interest once it goes to

17:20
zero then all of that income stream is

17:22
taxable even though you're still getting

17:24
the lifetime income payment people

17:26
always say hey you know the count is

17:28
zero but i'm still getting a lifetime

17:29
income stream

17:30
absolutely that's the transfer risk

17:31
that's the benefit proposition i have

17:33
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and

17:34
hundreds of clients

17:36
that have outlived their life expectancy

17:38
are still getting

17:39
that monthly income stream and you know

17:42
that

17:43
goes back to what's my roi i don't know

17:45
what the return on investment is until

17:47
you die

17:48
one thing that we use to look at the and

17:50
it's on it's on my site the

17:51
annuityman.com is you can pull up what's

17:53
called condex rankings which is

17:55
a compilation of the four primary rating

17:57
services which am best moody's standard

17:59
poor's and fitch you can look at those

18:01
ratings and then look at the conduct

18:03
score which is a compilation of those

18:04
four rating services

18:06
in an easy to understand one to a

18:08
hundred score

18:09
most of the people that are players most

18:11
of the carriers that are players

18:13
in the immediate annuity world

18:16
are big big companies the names that you

18:18
are

18:19
familiar with and i i certainly

18:21
represent you know all of those

18:24
let's see a couple more things i want to

18:25
cover and there's a lot right i mean

18:27
you're saying man you're killing me

18:29
staying with all this information that's

18:30
the reason you need the book and

18:32
you know my my blogs and all that stuff

18:34
will cover and

18:35
and we can also have these type of

18:36
conversations you can schedule call with

18:38
me and i can go over

18:39
everything with you but with any annuity

18:42
one of the best

18:42
things i think about the annuity

18:44
industry has done is what's called a

18:45
free look

18:46
provision i don't care what type you buy

18:50
you have the opportunity to get your

18:51
money back even after the policy

18:53
has been issued to you so understand

18:56
that that's that's a really good deal

18:57
you can test drive it get the policy

19:00
read the policy things might have

19:01
changed in your life you can get your

19:02
money back there's a

19:03
time frame that you can do that but

19:04
typically it's around 10 to 20 days

19:06
after you get depending on the state

19:09
10 to 20 days after you receive the

19:11
policy remember

19:12
fixed annuities are regularly at the

19:13
state level so every state has

19:15
there's a different rule but you have to

19:18
know that

19:19
also two if you're a youngster if uh

19:21
you're

19:22
less than 59 and a half years old you

19:25
can circumvent those irs penalties for

19:27
you know the 10 penalty getting your

19:29
money out through the rule of 72t

19:31
using an immediate annuity which is kind

19:34
of cool if you're young and you need

19:35
lifetime income stream we can structure

19:37
it so we can circumvent that

19:39
those are kind of the main points that i

19:42
wanted to go over

19:44
concerning immediate annuities you know

19:46
i do encourage you to

19:48
to contact me if you want to get a quote

19:50
you can go to my site and just punch in

19:52
there's a place there called get a quote

19:54
right at the annuityman.com

19:57
and you can get a quote you can get the

19:58
spea owners manuals etc

20:00
but let's let's close with a couple of

20:01
frequently asked questions just some of

20:03
the main ones

20:04
and i'm actually flipping through the

20:05
book which is uh the reason you need to

20:07
get it right

20:08
does the annuity come to keep the money

20:09
when i die with aspia

20:11
no you know remember we talked about

20:12
that you can structure so that

20:14
100 of the money goes to your

20:16
beneficiaries even though you're getting

20:18
a lifetime guarantee people always ask

20:20
me how does an immediate annuity company

20:21
make money

20:22
on annuities i mean you're giving them

20:24
their money they're giving it to you

20:25
back

20:26
in a either period certain or a lifetime

20:28
income stream based on your life

20:29
expectancy and they're holding on to the

20:30
money and they're making money off of

20:32
that

20:32
nothing risky they're handcuffed by

20:34
regulations they're not doing anything

20:35
crazy

20:36
but they can buy paper that we can't in

20:38
essence they they can do things

20:40
institutionally we cannot as individuals

20:42
out here

20:43
to make up for that money and the reason

20:45
that life insurance companies have the

20:46
big buildings is they know when we're

20:48
going to die

20:48
and property and casualty companies are

20:51
always coming and going is they don't

20:52
know when the hurricane's going to hit

20:53
right so is there a perfect age to buy

20:56
speed no

20:56
it's when you need income is when you

20:58
need to transfer risk

20:59
you might not ever need income i always

21:01
ask people call me i think i need an

21:03
immediate annuity and i say well do you

21:04
need income no well then you don't need

21:06
an immediate annuity how about that

21:08
remember the two questions what do i

21:09
want the money to contractually do this

21:11
is when you want to buy any type of

21:12
annuity ask these two questions

21:14
what i want the money to contractually

21:16
do and when do i want those contractual

21:18
guarantees to start from those two

21:20
answers

21:21
i can give you the type of annuity you

21:23
need so

21:24
if you answer that question hey stand on

21:26
your lifetime income stream to start i

21:28
don't know between now and a year

21:30
that's an immediate annuity right those

21:32
are those are the answers to the two

21:33
questions

21:33
remember you can use it inside of an ira

21:36
outside of an ira and you

21:37
even buy an immediate annuity inside of

21:39
a roth ira so what happens then

21:41
if you buy it inside of a roth ira then

21:44
100 of that

21:45
income stream is not taxable so you can

21:48
do that as well

21:49
people ask how's the media annuity

21:51
affect my required minimum distributions

21:53
let's just take an example if you have a

21:54
500 000 ira and you bought a hundred

21:56
thousand dollar immediate annuity

21:58
then the hundred thousand dollar

21:59
immediate annuity income stream would

22:01
cover the rmds for that hundred thousand

22:03
dollar immediate annuity

22:04
then you'd have to take rmds off the the

22:07
other four hundred thousand

22:08
if that makes sense so you can't use the

22:11
income

22:12
stream from the immediate annuity as

22:14
overage to apply to the non-annuity

22:16
assets

22:17
if that makes sense people say what's

22:20
the best of me to do

22:21
out there what company do you like going

22:22
back to it you buy an immediate annuity

22:24
like you buy a plane ticket you quote

22:26
all carriers

22:27
there's some great carriers out there

22:28
but that doesn't mean they finish first

22:30
all the time sometimes they do

22:32
and sometimes they don't so with that i

22:34
mean there's a lot more that i could go

22:36
into

22:37
but i think we've covered a lot it's

22:39
been a fire pose of information

22:41
once again i do encourage you to ask for

22:44
or go to my website

22:46
the annuityman.com and sign up to get

22:48
the spea owners manual

22:49
shipped to you for free no obligation

22:50
nobody's going to call you no one's

22:52
going to hassle you you

22:54
also can go to my site and get a free

22:55
immediate annuity quote

22:57
and we'll send you three versions we'll

22:58
send you within that one email we'll

23:00
send you life only

23:02
life with installment refund and life

23:04
with 20 years certain to show you how

23:05
they price all of those

23:08
again no obligation no one's going to

23:09
call you and bug you and show up at your

23:11
doorstep

23:12
so with that being said i really

23:14
appreciate you tuning

23:16
into this and and keep tuning in to the

23:18
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23:19
go deeper and deeper

23:21
as i go over the products then we'll

23:23
start going into deeper strategies

23:25
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23:27
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23:59
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24:01
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24:01
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24:03
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24:05
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