The 8th Wonder of the Annuity World: Shootin’ It Straight With Stan

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What if the cash sitting in your checking account could compound year after year without the IRS taking a cut of the interest every year? Stan, The Annuity Man, explains how Multi-Year Guarantee Annuities make that possible.
In this episode, The Annuity Man discussed:
- The PILL framework: principal protection, income for life, legacy, long-term care
- MYGAs as the annuity industry's version of a CD
- Tax-deferred compounding for non-qualified money
- Taking interest out, turning it on and off, and moving to a new MYGA without paying tax
- Why MYGA rates can be higher than CD rates
Key Takeaways:
- Buy an annuity for what it will do, not what it might do. Annuities are contracts that shift risk to the insurer. They aren't tools for market growth.
- CD and money market interest is taxed every year. MYGA interest in a non-qualified account grows and compounds with taxes deferred.
- You don't have to take anything out when the term ends. You can move the money into another MYGA without paying tax, and it keeps compounding.
- Need income for a while? You can take interest off the top and keep your principal, then switch the payments off when you no longer need them.
- MYGA rates can beat CD rates because insurance companies back them with other profit centers. That doesn't make MYGAs better than CDs. It just makes them a strong fit for non-IRA cash.
"Multi-Year Guarantee Annuities - it is the biggest no-brainer of all time and the greatest example of the eighth wonder of the annuity world which is compound interest." — Stan The Annuity Man
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Welcome to Shooting Straight with Stan.
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I'm your host Stan the Annuity Man.
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America's annuity agent, licensed in all
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50 states of Puerto Rico. The founder of
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CGO contractual guarantees only, which
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means that you own an annuity for what
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it will do, not what it might do. Never
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buy an annuity for market growth. Never
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buy an annuity with for market growth
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that has surren never buy anything that
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has surrender charges with mark that
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you're earmarking for market growth.
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Annuities are contracts. They solve for
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four things. The acronym is pill. P
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stands for principal protection. I
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stands for income for life. L L stands
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for legacy. Other L stands for long-term
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care. These are transfer of risk
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products. Today's topic is we're going
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to talk about the eighth wonder of the
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annuity world. And the eighth wonder of
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the annuity world is what some people
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call the eighth wonder of the world,
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which is compound interest.
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And there's one product on the planet
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that can do it in a very unique way with
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nonirra non-qualified money. Now, this
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product is called a multi-year guarantee
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annuity. It's the annuity industry's
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version of a CD. Um [clears throat] I I
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I call them an annuity bond because I
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I'm an old bond guy from Morgan Stanley
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because it in essence works like a bond.
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Um you lock in a guarantee for a
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specific period of time, choosing the
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carrier that's going to back up that
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guarantee. That's a bond to me. So it's
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a very efficient way to do principal
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protection. There's no fees. There's no
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hidden fees. And the interest if you use
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it in a nonirra checking account type
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situation, it grows and compounds tax
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deferred. Now, before you ask, I'm going
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to answer it. Yes, you can have a MA
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inside of an IRA. Yes, you can have a MA
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inside of a Roth IRA. Are we good about
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I'm going to do it again. Yes, you can
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have a MA inside of an IRA. Yes, you can
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have a MA inside of a Roth IRA.
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But today, we're and and it's going to
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it's going to grow and compound in those
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instruments as well. But today, I want
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you to think about checking account
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money. Um, money at the bank, you know,
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just just the cash, the cash money you
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have,
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and you don't want to pay the IRS any
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more taxes. Can I get an annuity amen on
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that? And you're trying to figure out
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how to do that. Well, with CDs in a
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nonirra account, you got to pay taxes on
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the interest, right? Money market, you
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got to pay taxes on the interest.
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multi-year guarantee annuities, annuity
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CDs, annuity bonds in a nonirra account,
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non-qualified account, checking account
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type money, that interest grows and
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compounds tax deferred. If you take
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money out, then you pay taxes on on what
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you take out, last in first out, gains
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first, but you don't have to. In other
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words, if you bought a five-year
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multi-year guarantee annuity and got to
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year five, you don't have to take the
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money up. Nothing's triggered. can roll
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it non-t taxable event to another MA.
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A lot of people say, "Stan, what do you
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do with your money? I mean, you're a
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Wall Street guy. What do you do with
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that?" I tell you what we do. And a lot
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of it's driven by the queen. My wife of
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38 years, she does not like volatility.
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You know, she lives by the Warren Buffet
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rule, which is rule number one. Rules.
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Rule number one, don't lose money. Rule
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number two, don't forget rule number
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one. That's my wife. Okay? And
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[clears throat] because I own the
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annuity man, it's one of I mean it's one
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of the fastest growing companies in the
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country. Um it's a great growth stock.
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If you ever if you could buy it as a
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growth stock, you would. Um but what we
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do with our additional extra money is we
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put it, you know, in the checking
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account and then we buy MAS and then we
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let that interest grow and compound tax
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deferred.
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our our two daughters, the the
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princesses are the the beneficiaries on
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those policies. And yes, they're going
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to have to deal with the taxes when we
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die, but we don't ever plan, you know,
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we don't have a plan right now to take
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interest out. We don't need it. So, it's
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just rolling and rolling and rolling and
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rolling and compounding and compounding
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and compounding. And if you don't know
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what compound interest is, let me just
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give you like a an example. Let's just
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say you bought a $100,000 MA and the
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guaranteed interest rate and just I'm
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choosing it randomly because right now
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it's a little bit higher than this. Just
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say it's 5%. Okay. So after year one you
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have $105,000.
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You put in 100, you get 5%, you got 105.
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The second year you get 5% on the 105.
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And let's just say for easy math and you
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know it it's now 110. Then you get 5% on
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the 110. You get me? That's compounding
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interest. That's the eighth wonder of
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the world.
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I mean, it's amazing if you just put in,
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you know, in a compound interest
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calculator. The one that I like is
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investor.gov.
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But if you put in a compounding interest
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calculator and look at, okay, I'm going
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to buy this and it's going to defer for
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five years. What's it going to be to the
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penny? It's amazing.
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And I show my wife this all the time
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because, you know, she we have those
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annual dinners. I think they're called
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anniversaries. Yeah, they're calling
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anniversary. We have those dinners and
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her topic of conversation is what
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happens when you die stand, which is
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always heartwarming when you're having
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the anniversary dinner and that's kind
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of the topic of conversation. But I'll
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say, okay, let's look at the compound
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interest calculator. This is how much we
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have in MAS, which is a quadrillion
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lots of money, okay? Because I've been
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doing this a long time. And that's where
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we put our money. This is where it's at.
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This is the interest that we're getting
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every single year off that total. and
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it's compounding by this.
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And then I go, "And if we don't touch it
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for another five years, it'll be this."
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And she's always like, "There's no way."
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I'm like, "Way?"
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Yeah, there is a way.
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Compounding interest makes life simple.
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But a lot of people when they hear me
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say that, "Well, well, you're leaving
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your two princesses, your two daughters,
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the biggest tax bomb of all of all
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time." I don't care. I'm dead. Who gives
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a crap? They'll deal with it. They'll
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pay the taxes and they'll be okay. All
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right.
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They'll be okay. Now, for a lot of you
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out there, you say, "Well, that's
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compound interest is great, but
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I might want to take interest out of
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there to live off of." Great. Mas do
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that, too. Which is, hey, I'm going to I
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want to control the asset. I don't want
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to buy a lifetime income extreme
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annuity. I just want to peel interest
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off the top and then at the end of the
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duration, I have all of the money intact
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that I started out with. Yeah, you can
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do that. Here's the other thing about
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MAUS that I love. You can turn the in
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like let's just say that scenario you
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wanted to take out interest, you know,
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and to supplement income. Okay, great.
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You can shut that on and off like a
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light switch. In other words, you can
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say to my team, and if you're a client
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of ours, we manage billions of dollars
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of MIA, so we know what we're doing. You
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can tell my team, hey, I need interest
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to pay for the next six months. After
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the six months, you know, contact the
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carrier and and shut it back off. We can
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do that. We can do that. You talk about
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flexibility. And again, there's no
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gotcha fees, hidden fees, anything.
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These are straightforward fixed rate
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annuities. Fixed rate. And the reason
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that when people sometimes call me and
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they say, "Wait a minute, Stan. Why are
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the MA rates on your site higher than CD
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rates?" Because CDs are primarily
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focused on, you know, tenure treasury in
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the Fed. That's about 20% of the pricing
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of a MIGA because life insurance
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companies are issuing MIAs. Okay? They
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have they're pulling from profit centers
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like life insurance, lifetime income
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products, etc. So, they can offer a
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higher guarantee
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and it is contractual than than CDs.
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Doesn't make them better than CDs. Love
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CDs. But for nonqualified
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money, nonIRRA money, checking account
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type money that you want a great
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interest rate, and you don't want to pay
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taxes annual on that interest, it's
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multi-year guarantee annuities. It is
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the biggest no-brainer of all time and
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the greatest example of the eighth
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wonder of the annuity world, which is
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compound interest.
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I encourage you to go to my site. Top
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right hand corner, it'll say see live
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rates. Click that button, put in your
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state of residence, put in the duration
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you're looking at and you'll see
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everything on there. Now, before you buy
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anything, I need to speak with you. So,
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book a call and we'll go through the
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exact, you know, what I'm recommending
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at that time. You know, I show all
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carriers. That doesn't mean that I'm
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recommending every single one of them
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because we not only look at the
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financials, we look at their
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administrative side as well. Um, so they
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have to pass both of those sniff tests
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for me to for me to um recommend them.
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The other thing on my site, you can go
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and download a MA owners manual. I've
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written owners manuals on all products,
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but you can get a, you know, 60page read
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on how those work. And if you're on my
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YouTube channel right now, you might be
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just type in the space bar MA and you'll
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see hundreds of videos on multi-year
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guarantee annuities that I've done that
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will fully explain them even further
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than what I am doing today. But what I
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wanted to primarily get your attention
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is compound interest, eighth wonder of
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the annuity world, eighth wonder of the
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world, period. But in the annuity world,
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multi-year guarantee annuities can be
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used in IRA accounts, Roth IRA accounts,
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and also non-qualified accounts. But the
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non-qualified account is the game
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changer because even that money grows
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tax deferred incomes.
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How about that? All right.
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Book a call with me. No cost obligation.
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Love to speak with you. Love to get to
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know you. No obligation. So, uh, why
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wouldn't you do it? And I would
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encourage you to go to my site and talk
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to Virtual Stanley. It's like talking to
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me, but without the the southern accent
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and the, uh, chip on my shoulder.
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[laughter]
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But Virtual Sandal is pretty cool. And
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you can also, if you choose Amiga, uh,
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you can you can do the application
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online if you want to do that as well.
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My name is Stan, the annuity man. That
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is Shooting It Straight with Stan. We'll
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see you next time.
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