Real Market Growth Has No Surrender Charges: Shootin’ It Straight With Stan

August 16, 2026
10 min
Real Market Growth Has No Surrender Charges: Shootin’ It Straight With Stan
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Real market growth never comes with surrender charges—and if it does, you’re not really in the market. In this episode, Stan The Annuity Man tears apart “too good to be true” annuity pitches and shows you how to separate true contractual guarantees from sales hype.

In this episode, The Annuity Man discussed:
- Real market growth vs surrender charges
- Proper role of annuities and contractual guarantees
- Index annuities and income riders as delivery systems
- The PILL framework for what annuities actually solve
- Anonymous quote tool and consumer-first annuity education

Key Takeaways:
- Real stock market participation is defined by liquidity and full upside potential; once surrender charges are involved, you’re no longer in a true market-growth vehicle.
- Annuities should be purchased strictly for their contractual guarantees, not for hypotheticals, illustrated returns, or sales-driven “dream” scenarios.
- Index annuities are most efficiently used as delivery systems for income rider guarantees rather than as primary growth products.
- The PILL framework—Principal protection, Income for life, Legacy, Long-term care—clarifies exactly what annuities are designed to solve, and growth is not on that list.
- Separating annuities for guarantees and non-annuities for growth helps investors build a clearer, more rational strategy without falling for upfront bonuses and marketing gimmicks.

"Real market growth has no surrender charges." — Stan The Annuity Man

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0:00
Welcome to Shooting Straight with Stan.

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I'm your host Stan the Annuity Man.

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America's annuity agent licensed in all

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50 states in Puerto Rico. The founder of

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CGO, which is contractual guarantees

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only. Annuities should be owned for what

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they will do, not what they might do.

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Got it? No hypotheticals, no

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theoreticals, no projected, no little,

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you know, chart up on the wall at the

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bad steak dinner seminar. Today's topic

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is a good one. Real market growth has no

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surrender charges.

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I want you to I want you to just kind of

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let that one sink a little bit. Real

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market growth has no surrender charges.

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This is a direct shot at all of the

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annuity product pushers out there that

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are like, you can get market upside with

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no downside. You can get you can get

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market participation with principal

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protection and an upfront bonus. Those

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goofballs.

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They're just burning through clients.

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So when you hear that, and I always tell

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people, go go to the go to the seminar,

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swallow the food, not the pitch. My mom

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in St. Augustine, Florida, goes to three

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or four now every week, you know, just

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they're thank you agent people for

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feeding her, you know. But when someone

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pitches you something and says, "Yeah,

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[clears throat] you know, if you'd have

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owned this uh seven, eight, nine years

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or seven, eight, nine years, you'd have

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gotten 7% 10% 11% 13%."

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Just go, it's got to go over your head

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and you got to go, I got a question.

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Yes. Does this growth product that

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you're pushing, does it have surrender

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charges to it? And if they say yes,

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don't buy it.

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I'm the only one saying that out here

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and I am correct. The industry hates

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that, but I am correct. You buy an

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annuity for contractual guarantees. When

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you get an annuity, I don't care what

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type. Even if it's those great growth

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products, you're going to get a policy

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in the mail. What's a policy? Stand good

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question. It's a contract.

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Don't buy the dream because you're going

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to own the contractual realities of a

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polic of the policy. I had a call

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yesterday. Jim and bought and I love I I

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I don't how know how this happens.

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Johnny Apple Seed agent sold three of

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the same index annuities in three

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different accounts. I said, "Well, how

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how's it going? How's how's the

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returns?" He said, "Just like you said,

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just a bad CD." Uh-huh. I'm not I mean,

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the upside of a of a index annuity is

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it's principal protected. The upside of

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an index annuity and how we use them

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efficiently and properly is as a

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delivery system for income writer

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guarantees. Draw a line down a blank

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sheet of paper.

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Index annuity over here. Income writer

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over here. That's the contractual

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guarantee. That's all we're looking at.

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Don't talk to me about that over there.

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La doesn't matter. This is all we're

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looking at.

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Let's go further. I I used to be, you

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know, with Morgan Stanley, Dean,

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Woodpane, wherever UBS. Even on that

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side, even on that side of the ledger,

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real market growth does not have

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surrender charges. You say, "Well, Dan,

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aren't you just throwing the mutual fund

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industry under the bus?" Mutual funds,

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playoffs, mutual funds.

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How about ETFs? How about stocks? How

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about stuff that has 100% liquidity and

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100% upside? That's market growth.

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Well, then, you know, I I kind of want

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to I kind of want to limit the risk and,

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you know, this old boy down the road so

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I can buffer it and shield it and all

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kinds of stuff.

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Oh my god.

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If it sounds too good to be true, it is

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every single time without exceptions

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with annuities. Listen to me now. I get

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a lot of hate mail and I you you have no

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idea from the industry. My comment to

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that is agents and advisors that are

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sending me hate mail after hate mail and

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going on all social. We're on 10 social

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media platforms and we dominate everyone

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because I have a genius behind the

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scenes that does the social media for me

4:14
and can I consult with him all the time.

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He's in in my office. He's one of one of

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the TAM employees. But man, people in

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the industry spend a lot of time hating

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on me. And I'm going, are y'all not like

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working? What do you like? Who's got

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time? I guess they're trying to bait me

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into a conversation. [laughter]

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Good luck. I'm not going to waste time

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with you. If you're an agent or adviser,

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and you shouldn't be watching this. You

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should be working.

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These videos are done for the consumer,

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not the industry. I'm doing this for the

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person that is considering an annuity

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and that has been that's been pushed and

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pressured into buying hopes and dreams

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and unicorns chasing the butterflies and

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the proposal numbers look good and

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they're going to give me an upfront

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bonus. Dan,

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upfront bonus is candy for the stupid.

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It's like going to a car dealership and

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buying a car for the stereo system.

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There's not there's a hundred pennies in

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the dollar. An upfront bonus is part of

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the overall contractual guarantee. So

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when we look at income writers, if you

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answer the two questions I asked, what

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do you want the money to contractually

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do? And you say lif lifetime income.

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When do you want those contractual

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guarantees to start? And you said seven

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years, six years, whatever. And we quote

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income writers and DAS, deferred income

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annuities. We quote income writers. I

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could care less about the index annuity.

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It's just delivering the income writer

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guarantee.

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And the upfront bonus is just part of

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the contractual guarantee. Spoiler

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alert, most annuities

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with income writers that offer upfront

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bonuses don't have the highest payout

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contractually. They're literally shiny

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things for stupid people.

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And agents love it. Well, I got this one

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here, boy. 50% off bonus. Who cares?

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Who cares? Who cares?

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Stock market growth, real market growth

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has nothing to do with annuities. Zero.

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Annuities are contracts. They're

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transfer risk contracts. They solve for

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four things. The acronyms PI pill. P

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stands for principal protection. I

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stands for income for life. L stands for

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legacy. The other L stands for long-term

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care. There's no G for growth. There's

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no M for market. There's no S for stock.

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There's no B for Bitcoin.

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You You're a better investor to put the

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guarantees in place and then go invest.

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Not in annuities, non-anuities.

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Draw a line down blank sheet of paper.

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Annuity contractual guarantees only.

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Non-anuities for growth. Annuities for

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contractual guarantees only. nonanuities

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for growth. If you just remember that,

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this video is gold for you.

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Now, what I've done recently is I've

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changed my website up. It's pretty cool.

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I'm on there. Got like these shades on,

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aviator shades. We have some fun with

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it. [snorts]

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But the game changer is this. You can

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run quotes 247 365. And we do not ask

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for any personal information. You don't

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have to you don't have to sign up to for

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to create an account or whatever. You

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just get the quotes.

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If you're like me, you're concerned

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about privacy. If you're like me, you're

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concerned about all of that. The hackers

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of the world, old people like me, just

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scary.

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Well, because of that, I wanted to put

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zero barriers up on the site. And we do

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that. You can get quotes like for

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instance on a lifetime income quote. We

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just need your gender, your state of

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residence, and your date of birth if

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it's joint dates of birth. And from

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there, you can fill in the rest

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anonymously and get a real quote with

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real company names.

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I don't know how much that's going to

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cost me because I, you know, that I have

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to pay for that. I'm okay with that.

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I've budgeted for that. But the numbers

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are gargantuan.

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but it allows you to run the quotes and

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not worry about it.

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Now, you can go to my site also and

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download books. You're going to have to

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give us your email address for that. Or

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if you want to sign up for our live

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events, you'll have to give us your

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email address for that. And if you book

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a call

8:49
and want to get down and dirty and hear

8:51
the truth, obviously we'll need your

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phone number because I'm going to call

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you at the time that you schedule. But

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to run quotes and get information and

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get real solid numbers contractually,

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that's anonymous. You can do it

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anonymously

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and we are the only ones and we will

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always be the only ones. There's no one

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going to do that because everyone's

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like, "Well, let's collect their data.

9:13
Let's collect their data and then let's

9:14
email into them and let's email market

9:16
into them. Then let's crossell into

9:17
them." Screw all that.

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I'm here to flip the industry upside

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down. I'm here to change it. I'm here to

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make annuities

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the I mean right now annuitities somehow

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is the f-word. How's it the f- word?

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We have a monopoly on lifetime income.

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How how is that possible? I'm going to

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change that.

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So remember,

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real market growth, real stock market

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participation

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has no surrender charges, no exceptions.

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Are we clear? Do not buy the dream

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because you're going to own the

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contractual realities. Please go to my

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site, download the book, schedule call

10:03
with me, run quotes anonymously, email

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me stantheanuityman.com.

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That's shooting it straight with Stan

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and I was on target today. My name is

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Stan the annuity man. See you next time.

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