How Annuities Solve for Sequence of Lifestyle Risk: Fun With Annuities

Market swings can threaten more than a portfolio—they can affect the retirement lifestyle you’ve worked toward. This episode makes the case for an income floor as a way to help retirees stay steady through both market volatility and life’s changing stages.
In this episode, The Annuity Man discusses:
- Sequence-of-returns risk and guaranteed income
- Social Security, pensions, and MYGAs
- Market volatility and avoiding panic selling
- Go-go, slow-go, and no-go retirement phases
Key Takeaways:
- The episode argues that guaranteed income can help cover essential expenses while leaving investments less exposed to panic-driven decisions.
- “Sequence of lifestyle risk” describes the possibility that market downturns or life events could disrupt a retiree’s plans.
- Retirement income planning can consider Social Security, pensions, and annuity products as parts of an income floor.
- An income floor may give retirees more confidence to remain prudent investors during market volatility.
- Retirement needs can change over time, so planning should account for active years as well as periods when more care may be needed.
"Sequence of returns risk can be solved by annuities… the income floor is in place, the guarantees are in place, the principal protections in place, so it doesn't disrupt the lifestyle that you've worked so hard for and earned and should enjoy in chapter two of your life.” — Stan the Annuity Man
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FUN WITH ANNUITIES (r)
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Welcome to Fun with Annuities. I'm your
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host, Stan the Annuity Man, America's
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annuity agent, licensed in all 50 states
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and Puerto Rico. Today's topic is an
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interesting one. You probably have never
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heard this phrase before because I made
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it up, but it makes sense. How annuities
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solve for sequence of lifestyle risk.
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Now, you've heard of sequence of returns
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risk, which is flattening out the risk
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of your portfolio using annuity
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guarantees to do that. And the way that
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I always tell people is if you put in an
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income floor using annuities and
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annuities are the only product on the
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planet that solves for lifetime income
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and pays you as long as you're
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breathing. There's no ROI until you die.
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You're a better investor. So in other
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words, you have the income floor in
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place. You've got the the growth stuff
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over here. By the way, growth doesn't
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equate into annuities. When I say
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growth, I mean non annuities, not an
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annuity under any circumstance. Don't
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buy an annuity for growth. But when you
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have the guaranteed income floor in
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place, social security, annuities, etc.,
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pensions, you don't disrupt your your
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investments and you're a better
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investment investor for it. So it so it
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flattens out that you know sequence of
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returns risk instead of it going and
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when it's going up and down and up and
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down and up and down, you're not
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panicking and selling. You've got the in
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floor in place so you can ride it out
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and make more money in the markets. So
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we all understand what sequence of
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returns risk means, but annuities soft
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for sequence of lifestyle risk. Hey
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Stan, you made that up out of thin air.
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What's sequence of lifestyle risk? Same
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thing. In essence, you don't want your
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life's going to be there's going to be
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ups and there's going to be downs.
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There's going to be good and there's
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going to be bad. There's going to be,
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you know, great things happen and
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disappointments.
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But when you have the income floor in
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place,
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you get through that better. And I know
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you're saying, "Stan, come on, man.
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That's a little bit of a reach." Is it?
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Is it really a reach?
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For those of you that have put in an
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income floor for yourself or that do not
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need income, you know, income is coming
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and it's not correlated to the market.
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It's not some Johnny Apples Seed Advisor
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going, "Well, let me just peel off the
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gains, Mr. Jones and then you don't have
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to buy an annuity from that Stan the
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annuity man character.
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What happens when the markets go down?
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Johnny Apple Seed market advisor.
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You know what happens? It doesn't work.
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And the 4% rule doesn't work. Sequence
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again sequence sequence of returns risk
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is is
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leveling out that risk while the markets
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are volatile because you have the
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guarantees in place. Annuities do that
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sequence of lifestyle risk. I think it's
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more important than that because in
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chapter two of your life, it's about
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lifestyle. It's about you. It's about
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living better than you had planned
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because you've worked so hard. You're a
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30-year overnight sensation. Can I get
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an annuity amen on that one? [snorts]
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Chapter two of your life, you don't want
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your lifestyle to be interrupted. You
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want your lifestyle to increase. You
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want your lifestyle to be unaffected by
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global events, politics, stupid
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politicians, both parties, and market
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girrations,
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wars, whatever you want. Sequence of
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lifestyle risk so your lifestyle is
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smooth. It's not choppy. You don't have
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to stop what you're what you're doing.
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If you're if you're playing guitar or if
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you're volunteering at the local YMC or
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whatever it is, it's not going to be
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interrupted because your income floor is
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in place.
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So, mark the date of this taping. I
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might have come up with something that
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the financial journalist might just love
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because, you know, they love when they
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say, "Well, annuities do saw for
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longevity risk." What's longevity risk?
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It's the fear of outliving your money.
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Well, annuities do sometimes suffer and
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and help with sequence of returns risk.
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What's that? The risk of the markets and
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you you're overreacting as they're
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gyating, but if you have an income
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floor, you don't because you have an
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income floor. You don't have to worry
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about it. So Stan the Annuity Man,
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America's annuity agent, licensed all 50
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states of Puerto Rico,
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top agent in the country, comes out and
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says, "Wait a minute.
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[cough and clears throat]
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It's sequence of life lifestyle risk.
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There is risk to your lifestyle. If
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you're in the markets 100% all in
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rolling the dice with the overhands uh
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with with a running start throwing them
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overhand and the markets go down. That's
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sequence of lifestyle risk.
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If Johnny Apple Seed Advisor is saying,
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"Hey, let's just let's not buy the
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annuity, but let's just peel off in
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let's peel off the gains from the
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portfolio." Number one, he's probably
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never seen a down market. Number two, I
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probably have cowboy boots older than
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him. Number three, he's a dreamer.
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Number four, run for your life
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because you're going to have sequence of
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lifestyle risk eventually.
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Now, I know at the time of this taping,
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everybody thinks that artificial
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intelligence and the data centers and
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Elon Musk car that can catapult over a
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truck. Those are great things, but
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markets go up and down. Just as a
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reminder, the country that we all love
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and live in and f would fight for is 41
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up to 42 trillion in debt at the time of
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this taping with no plan to get out of
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it.
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Eventually, that piper will be paid.
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But what you want are non-correlated,
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non-market attached assets that that
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create that income floor that you're
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never going to outlive. You already own
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the best inflation annuity on the
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planet. That's social security.
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If you have a pension now, you own two.
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But you can't hate annuities and love
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your social security. You can't hate
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annuities and love your pension. You
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can't hate annuities and love CDs
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because there's a product that that
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mimics CDs. It's called AMA multi-year
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guarantee annuity.
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What if you have your income floor in
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place?
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There's no lifestyle risk.
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I met with a couple today.
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They actually flew in to see me. That's
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crazy. But I love that I and I couldn't
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turn the appointment down. Typically
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everything we do is is virtual. But they
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actually flew in and I sat with them and
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and I said, "What's the goal?" And they
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said, "Well, the goal is that we just
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don't have to worry about anything
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anymore." And and the bills are paid. I
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said, "Well, what's that number?" They
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told me the number. I said, "What's that
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number com combined with social security
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that you're going to take?" So, we
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backed into the number, use the least
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amount of money as possible, and they
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walked out of the office. I said, "You
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don't have to worry about money anymore.
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you I mean your your lifestyle risk is
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no more
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markets can gyate. You can have money in
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the markets. You don't really have to
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worry about it. Be a good investor. Be a
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prudent investor. But you don't have to
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overreact and sell sell sell when you
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need to or when you think your your
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instinct tells you to if you're afraid.
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So just remember everyone talks about on
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CNBC and Fox Business and whatever
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channel Bloomberg that you watch
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sequence of returns risk and that can be
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solved by annuities and smoothing out
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that up and down because you have the
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lifetime income floor but more
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importantly is solving for sequence of
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lifestyle risk and sequence of lifestyle
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risk means that the income floor is in
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place the guarantees are in place. the
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principal protections in place so it
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doesn't disrupt the lifestyle that
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you've worked so hard for and earned and
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should enjoy in chapter two of your
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life. I'll close with this. Remember
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there's three phases of retirement. Slow
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go well go, slow go and no go. So go go
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go. You know what that is? You feel
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good. You can travel. You're thinking it
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means it's good. Slow go is you can you
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hurt. You can't move as well. And no go,
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you know what that means? drooling on
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yourself and wearing a diaper. We're all
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going to get there if we live long
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enough. What I'm saying is sequence of
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lifestyle risk.
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Enjoy the enjoy the go- go and then you
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can enjoy the slowgo and then you have
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money to take care of you on the no-go.
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Makes sense. My name is Stan the annuity
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man. That's fun with annuities. That was
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fun and enjoyable and edutaining.
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I'll see you next
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