Annuity Guarantees Don’t Change With Account Types: Shootin’ It Straight With Stan

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Confused about how annuities work inside IRAs, Roths, and non-qualified accounts? In this episode, Stan the Annuity Man breaks down why annuity contractual guarantees never change with account type—and why using annuities for growth is a big mistake.
In this episode, The Annuity Man discussed:
- Annuity contractual guarantees vs. account types
- Using traditional IRAs for annuity income strategies
- Roth IRAs, tax-free income, and where growth should live
- Non-qualified (cash) accounts and entrepreneur realities
- Common annuity misconceptions and industry messaging
Key Takeaways:
- The contractual guarantees of an annuity are identical regardless of whether it’s held in a traditional IRA, Roth IRA, or non-qualified account; only the taxation of distributions changes.
- Qualified Longevity Annuity Contracts (QLACs) are strictly for traditional IRA-type accounts and can help with required minimum distribution (RMD) planning and pension-style income.
- Roth IRAs are often best reserved for true growth assets, but they can still be used to create tax-free lifetime income streams with certain annuity products.
- Many entrepreneurs end up using non-qualified cash for annuities because their capital is tied up in their businesses rather than in retirement plans.
- Annuities should be purchased solely for their contractual guarantees—such as principal protection and lifetime income—not for market returns or speculative growth.
"Contractual guarantees don't change regardless of the type of account that you use." — Stan The Annuity Man
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Welcome to Shooting It Straight with
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Stan. I'm your host, Stan, the Annuity
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Man, America's annuity agent, licensed
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in all 50 states of Puerto Rico, the
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founder of Contractual Guarantees Only,
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CGO, which means you own an annuity for
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what it will do, not what it might do. I
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know what you're saying. Hey, Stan, what
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happened to your sweatshirt, son? Hey,
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this is plan. This is um distressed.
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Like, if you distress this, this is
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distressed sweatshirt. Worth a lot of
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money. If I tore a hole in it, double
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the price. It doubles the price. I know
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you don't believe that. Hey, if you got
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kids and they bought the holy jeans with
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the holes in them brand new, you're
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like, "Yeah, I guess he's right a little
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about that." All right, today's topic is
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annuity
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annuity contractual guarantees do not
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change with account types. Easy for me
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to say. Let me tell you the reason I say
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this is because I get calls all the
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time. Well, first I get calls like never
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buy an annuity inside of an IRA. Well,
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most annuities are purchased inside of
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an IRA. Why? Because that's where all
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the money is and people buying the
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contractual guarantees.
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So, SPSD issu income writers for
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lifetime income multi-year guarantee
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annuities for principal protection. All
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of those are contractual guaranteed
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products.
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All of those the contractual guarantees
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don't change regardless of the type of
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account that you use. All right? So, you
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have the traditional IRA. So, you can
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you can buy an income writer, you can
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buy a qualified longevity annuity
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contract, you can buy a deferred income
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annuity, a single premium immediate
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annuity, anything in there, you can buy
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that. You know, the key one this one is
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they have a unique annuity. they meaning
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the I traditional IRA qualified
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longevity annuity contract.
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It can be used in traditional IAS for a
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pension type payment and there's some
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good things that can happen with your
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RMDs meaning you're going to pay less in
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taxes.
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So that comes out of an I the
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contractual guarantees are the same. The
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taxations you're going to be taxed at
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ordinary income levels. Anything coming
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out of your IRA nothing changes there.
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So let's look at Roth IAS. You can buy
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multi-year guarantee annuities, single
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premium immediate annuities, deferred
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income annuities, qualified longevity
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annuity contracts, you cannot buy in a
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Roth income writers, you can. I went
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there just went quickly just to see if
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you're paying attention. Qualified
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longevity annuity contracts, Q means
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qualified means IRA. Traditional that
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can only be used in traditional type
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IAS. All right, Roth IAS, you've already
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paid all these upfront taxes because
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you're a true patriot and you want to
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pay taxes. You want to pay a lot of
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taxes and you trust the government that
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they're not going to change the rules
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down the road.
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Gotcha. Um, hope that happens, by the
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way. But the contractual guarantees
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don't change inside of a Roth. Just the
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money coming out is tax-free
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until the politicians change the rules.
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Hope they don't. So let's then go to
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nonIRRA, non Roth IRA, checking account
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type money, what we call non-qualified,
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but checking account, savings account
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type money. Of course, you can't buy a
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qualified longevity annuity contract in
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there because Q means IRA,
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but everything else you can buy inside
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of that. SPAS, DAS, income writers,
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multi-year guarantee annuities.
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Hey, by the way, if you're if you're
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thinking, why didn't he mention in index
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annuities? Because I don't like them at
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their current state. I know everyone
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tries to sell you one. They don't work.
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We only use them as a delivery system
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for income writers.
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So, you in essence have three major
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account types that you have money in to
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choose from to purchase an annuity
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contractual guarantee after asking
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yourself and answering the two
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questions. What do you want the money to
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contractually do? And when do you want
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those contractual guarantees to start?
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And then look at the pill acronym that I
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have. It's principal principal
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protection, income for life, legacy, and
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long-term care. If you do not need one
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of those to be solved for contractually,
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you do not need an annuity. Please do
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not buy an annuity for growth. Please do
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not buy an annuity for market returns.
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Please, please, please.
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Annuities are for contractual
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guarantees. Annuities are commodities,
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but we you can use them in all account
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types. The contractual guarantees are
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the same. The only thing that changes is
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the taxation of the money coming out.
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But don't walk around going, "Well, I
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can't buy an annuity inside of an IRA
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because my buddy down the road said I
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can't." Stop listening to him. Okay?
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When you buy contractual guarantees
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inside of an IRA, it's the contractual
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guarantees. Who cares? You've already
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got tax deferral.
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Roth IAS in a perfect world that I live
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in, I try to live in my opinion, this
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that should be where your growth should
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be, like your your non-anuity assets.
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You've already paid all these upfront
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taxes. Why not take some risk and try to
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make some real money?
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But the answer is yes. If you said, "But
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Stan, I want a lifetime income stream
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that that I don't have to pay any taxes
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on that's taxfree because I've already
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paid all the upfront taxes to convert it
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into a Roth." You can do that. We have
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thousands of clients that do that that
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want to buy an immediate annuity inside
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of a Roth IRA or or they want to buy a
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multi-year guarantee annuity and take
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the interest off the top. MAS are the
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annuity industry version of a CD and
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take the interest off the top taxree.
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You can do that.
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Chapter 2 is about you. You can do
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whatever you want. I'm just saying in
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the perfect world that I live and you
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can only imagine how wonderful that is.
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Roth IRA should be used for real growth.
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If you have growth components in your
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portfolio, that's where they should be.
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In my opinion, having worked with Dean
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Whitter, Payne Weber, Morgan Stanley,
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UBS, been on that side of ledger, done
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it, know it. No more than your Johnny
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Apple Seed adviser throwing darts at it.
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No more. Okay.
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And then on the nonIRRA side, certainly
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you can buy an annuity using your cash
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money, your checking account money, your
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savings account money. That's where mine
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that, you know, people say, "Well, Stan,
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what do you do with your money? I bet
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you just sell annuities and you never
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buy one. No, that's not right. That's
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not true. The vast majority of me and
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the queen Christine been married for 38
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years. Our money mas
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and nonirra accounts. Why? Because I'm
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an entrepreneur and most of my money
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went into the company in the early
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years, not an IRA.
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If you're an entrepreneur out there, nod
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your head. I mean, you know, you're
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taking risks. You're throwing throwing
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the rolling the dice with an overhand
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start and a running start, right? You're
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I mean that's how you're doing it. Did I
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say that right? Yeah. You're rolling the
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dice with a running start throwing it
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overhand. That's entrepreneurism. But
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what that also means you're not
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contributing a lot to 401ks or IRA or
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things like that. I remember for so long
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I had 401ks for my employees and I never
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participated. I never took a salary
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because all the money is going back into
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the business. So all of our money as a
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families and and migas lots of it lots
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of money and mas but that's where it's
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at.
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But annuity contractual guarantees, the
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guarantees, the numbers don't change
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just because you put it in an IRA. Had a
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guy call the other day, hey Stan, can
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you run me a quote blah blah blah in an
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IRA? Sure, absolutely. And then calls
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back, hey, run me that quote in a in a
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nonirra because is it different? No,
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it's not different. It's the same.
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The taxation might be different
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depending on the product you choose, but
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the contractual guarantees are always
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the same regardless of the account type
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that you use.
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All right, pretty basic stuff, but I
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want you to understand that because
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there's a lot of misinformation out
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there over the years. Annuities are
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still the curse word in the financial
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financial business. I was talking to a
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guy today, really smart guy in the
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business. I'm like, this is such an easy
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fix. I'm going to fix it within the next
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5 years. Check the date here. I'm going
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to fix the messaging with annuities, the
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industry. I am I know how we're going to
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do it. I know how much money it's going
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to cost me a lot, but I'm going to do
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it. And you'll see the annuity business
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triple because if people understood how
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good the contractual guarantees are,
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they would be flocking, running,
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sprinting
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to get the highest contractual guarantee
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for their situation. All right, my name
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is Stan the annuity man. That is
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shooting it straight with Stan.
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